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  • i think now was the perfect to me to renegotiate with china
    in the long run it needed to be done

    economy is strong/energy is cheap/much and china has been in the catbirds seat for too long

    they need us as much as we mneed them

    I bet a deal gets annoiunced before the new tarrifs take affect

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    • Both votes fail to reach 60, but the Democrat plan to reopen the govt for 3 weeks just got more votes than the Trump/Kushner plan did. Six Republicans votes for the Dem plan, including Romney, Johnny Isakson, and Lamar Alexander

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      • Oh and I think McConnell absolutely held these votes back to back as a message to Trump.

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        • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
          Both votes fail to reach 60, but the Democrat plan to reopen the govt for 3 weeks just got more votes than the Trump/Kushner plan did. Six Republicans votes for the Dem plan, including Romney, Johnny Isakson, and Lamar Alexander
          how many dems voted for the R bill?

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          • I thought they had to do these so they could adjourn for the weekend. I'm sure maybe there is some of that, but I know there was something procedural.

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            • Here's the vote tally on the two bills. R's still covering for Trump in sufficient numbers to prevent passage of the 3w funding bill. Marco Rubio just got an email from me. Johnny Isakson, my former Senator from GA, voted yes for both plans. Not sure what that kind of vote meas and all the Rs who voted yes on the Dem plan also voted yes on the Trump plan.

              Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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              • Cotton and Mike Lee the only Senators to vote no on both. Lee does it out of libertarian principle. Cotton is arguably the most anti-immigration member of the Senate

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                  • Pls no but I think I have read this in the past

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                    • WH leaks preparations for a phony "national emergency" to build 's Vanity Wall. I think they're tossing that out to see what kind of Congressional response there will be. Figure the House will pass their half of a joint resolution repealing the declaration immediately. Then the real horse trading will start to flip 4 GOP senators and get Mr Turtle to bring the measure to the floor. Chump would certainly veto the measure but the all important optics would be horrid. Congress could also allocate money to tear down the wall forcing Dear Leader to take and shoot more hostages with a 2nd shutdown later on.
                      “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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                      • Originally posted by Kapture1 View Post
                        I think a big problem, aside from the left owning every avenue of culture (news, schools, music, movies, tv minus PewDiePie with his 82,000,000 subs) is that 40 and under don't know how fucking blessed they are to have what capitalism has provided them. They have completely taken for granted how lucky they are to have been born in this time in this country. Mix that with a lack of a real education and surprise surprise, they embrace socialism.
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                          lolololzzzz

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post
                            Here's the vote tally on the two bills. R's still covering for Trump in sufficient numbers to prevent passage of the 3w funding bill. Marco Rubio just got an email from me. Johnny Isakson, my former Senator from GA, voted yes for both plans. Not sure what that kind of vote meas and all the Rs who voted yes on the Dem plan also voted yes on the Trump plan.

                            https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...live-vote.html
                            A pretty straight COYA. Sen Manchin (DINO-WV) voted yes on both too.
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                            • Originally posted by Whitley View Post

                              A pretty straight COYA. Sen Manchin (DINO-WV) voted yes on both too.
                              Manchin and six Republicans voted yes to both. Lee and Cotton voted no to both. Everyone else was strictly down party lines. But when the President's party controls the Senate and the Democrat plan gets more votes, a message is being sent.

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                              • Kushner was reportedly "very surprised" that more Democrats didn't vote with Trump today.

                                How many of Trump's worst decisions involved Jared Kushner is some way? Kushner reportedly advised him that if he fired Comey, the Russia investigation would quickly melt away.

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