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  • Hack: This is why negative interest rates existed during the Obama administration, and is an example of the waterboarding I deal with every single day. This is about CA.
    http://news.stamfordglobal.com/daily...sand-hill-road (trying my best to avoid a paywall)

    The core of the article is summarized:


    If you stroll down Sand Hill Road in Menlo Park, Calif., you will find yourself among America’s leading venture capitalists. The companies on this street helped bring the world Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Google, Tesla, Lyft and other transformative businesses that have created millions of jobs.

    Sand Hill Road also offers some of the most expensive commercial property in the U.S., rivaling even Midtown Manhattan. But despite the enormous cost of real estate, you won’t find any high-rise buildings. What passes for a Sand Hill skyscraper tops out at two stories. Even stranger, near the end of Sand Hill Road you can find cows grazing happily on the most expensive grass in the country.

    Why do parts of this area look more like a gentleman’s farm than a leading financial center? Land regulations. In a free market, there would be enormous economic pressure to develop the property, to move its cute cows to far less valuable pastures and to construct much taller buildings. But this kind of development is largely prohibited Land regulations have run amok, and not only in Menlo Park. In addition to governing how private property can be used, these rules implicitly dictate which special-interest groups have a say in commercial and residential development. Building proposals bring dozens of vested interests out of the woodwork, ranging from environmentalists, to “not in my backyard” homeowners, to affordable-housing lobbyists.

    The question is what this costs the larger economy. Many theories have been raised to explain why the U.S. has been plagued by weak growth, which began even before the 2008 financial crisis. But as much as 40% of the slowdown may be due to increasingly severe land regulations, according to our research, conducted with economist Kyle Herkenhoff at the University of Minnesota.

    Land regulations add friction to the economy in that they impede the flow of workers and capital from regions with poor job opportunities to places with good ones. Interstate migration rates used to be high. Between 1950 and 1980, California’s population increased from a little over 10 million to nearly 24 million, and its share of the national population rose from about 7% to 10%. This growth reflected a bounty of new economic opportunities that created millions of high-wage jobs in industries ranging from technology and aerospace to high-skilled manufacturing and financial services.

    California’s boom was facilitated by exceptionally good state and local economic policies, which in turn reflected a bipartisan understanding that the public’s interest was served by government that helped, not hindered, development. In the 1950s and 1960s, capital spending accounted for as much as 20% of the state budget. California built schools, roads and water systems to support its population growth. These public-private synergies made California into the most populous state in the country, and the second most productive, behind only New York.

    Despite rapid growth, housing remained relatively affordable. In 1970 California’s home prices were about 36% higher than the national average. But that changed as tightening land regulations began to constrain development. By 1990 California housing was 147% more expensive than the nation overall.

    These regulations have damaged California and the national economy. Stratospheric home prices have redirected millions of workers away from the Golden State’s highly productive industries to states with more permissive land regulations and lower housing costs, but also with fewer high-paying jobs.

    Relaxing land regulations could substantially improve America’s economic performance by making housing and commercial development more affordable. If California rolled back its land rules to where they stood in 1980, our research estimates that the state’s population could ultimately grow to 18% of the country. U.S. gross domestic product could permanently increase by about 2%, or $375 billion. If every state rolled back land regulations to 1980 levels, GDP could rise by as much as $1.8 trillion.


    What socialists and bureaucrats (like your wife) don't comprehend is that these foolish regulations, always enacted to avoid anyone becoming a "victim", hurt everyone except those with political power.

    Speaking of which, Trump is in Utah trying to undo the enormous scam that was the Grand Escalante National Monument. I'll leave it to you to look up, the that Monument was a Bill Clinton payoff to an Indonesian "donor". It took the US's hard coal reserves off the global market, and the Indonesian donor then had a virtual monopoly.

    When I said "cattle futures", and you said basically "what?", I don't blame you because you are young. Grand Escalante has many great formations, and those should be protected. But the other 98% should be opened to the public (it is still owned by the US) for normal uses.

    Personally, I'd love to see the Federal government auction the immense land holdings they have, not all, but most. That would easily pay off the national debt.
    Last edited by Da Geezer; December 5, 2017, 10:21 PM.

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    • Well, we are not close to agreement there and likely never will be. What we probably can agree on is that policy is a blunt instrument and not a surgical one. We overdo it to one extreme, and then to the other. Were you or I given the choice we would almost certainly choose the opposite extremes in most cases.

      As for me, I'm always willing to protect nature from developers. It is awfully hard to put cats back in their bags once it has been proved that it was a bad idea to have let them out in the first place. I love this quote from Orhan Pamuk: "That is what it means to be human: destroying everything and then being nostalgic about it."

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      • weak. very weak: "As for me, I'm always willing to protect nature from developers". Of course, you and your wife are. I've actually dedicated 280 acres along Lake Michigan as environmental preserves. What have you or your wife actually done??

        Classic progs. You are perfectly willing to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money, or to take their property rights, and assign them to your favored governmental organization.

        Now, think carefully.

        What would you think about auctioning the federal lands in order to pay off the federal debt?

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        • 1. I suggest you drop the personal stuff. Was that your add in brackets about my wife? She is not a federal employee. Mind your fucking manners. You allegedly grew up in a Christian household, which is to suggest that you know how to do that.

          2. I think YOU should think carefully about the stupid premise of that stupid piece. It's clickbait for people like you. The bottom line is no matter how regulated or unregulated a place, land is more costly in desirable places where there are jobs. Somalia is possibly the least regulated place on the planet -- as of 2013 there was ONE computer in the central bank. It did not provide liquidity at a benchmark rate, provide foreign exchange or anything else that get some people all conspiratorial. Do you want to make a bet with me on the price per square foot in Mogadishu, the second city, Harguesa, and rural lands? I know what you'll find. It has nothing to do with government intervention or overregulation of any sort. It's basic economics.

          3. I think you need to think about what it would mean to pay off the federal debt. Say goodbye to the yield curve, and therefore the commercial bond market. Say goodbye to leverage over China. Say goodbye to credit markets in New York. The government's balance sheet does thrive or suffer according to the same metrics as a household one. Especially the government of the US, given that the global financial system runs through New York and affords the country perhaps its most hard-to-lose form of soft power.

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          • Lucid.
            Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
            Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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            • NIMBYism runs highest in the rich, affluent areas.

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              • so I'm assuming most here side with the couple over the baker

                if they rule for the couple does that mean hobbylobby and chickfilet can no longer use their religious practices for their businesses?

                doesn't that mean the muslims I work with no longer get a friday half day off paid kneeling to mecca in the afternnon

                Are we pulling all religious practices out of the workplace?

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                • Nope. That is not the issue at all.
                  To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi

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                  • I'm not sure I'd assume that, Crash. I certainly side with the cakeshop on this one. I would also side with black bakers if they were compelled to serve all white folks including those that wanted a confederate flag cake.

                    The nice baker serves gays folks. He just don't wedding cakes for them. He also doesn't do halloween cakes. And others.
                    Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                    Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                    • he is using his religion to deny a service

                      much like a doctor I work with uses his religion to deny services on Friday afternoons

                      love to see that one work its way up

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                      • That's actually not the issue, Crash. The issue is whether the state can compel folks to express opinions that they disagree with. The central issue, then, is whether making a wedding cake is expressive content protected by the First Amendment. If it is, then Baker is going to win all day long. If it's not, then the gay couple who intentionally ginned up this case will win.

                        That's why the comparable example is the black bakers and a confederate flag cake. If making a cake is non-expressive then they can be compelled to do that. In this case I'm not even sure that it was the gay couple that was the issue -- it was the actually cake design -- it was the traditional rainbow that is absolutely expressive speech. He rejected the design. The state says you can't do that. Imperious.
                        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                        • Originally posted by crashcourse View Post
                          so I'm assuming most here side with the couple over the baker

                          if they rule for the couple does that mean hobbylobby and chickfilet can no longer use their religious practices for their businesses?

                          doesn't that mean the muslims I work with no longer get a friday half day off paid kneeling to mecca in the afternnon

                          Are we pulling all religious practices out of the workplace?
                          I am afraid it does more than that, beyond the bounds of religion.

                          It means that I can go into a gay baker (which is about 90% of the bakeries in America) and request a big sheet cake with Leviticus 18 frosted on the top, and they must serve me or face lawsuit.

                          That say a black owned custom shirt and apparel shop can't refuse an order to print KKK and white supremacist shirts for their rally. Or Jewish owned for that matter.


                          Or that the West Borough Baptists could force a gay photographer to work for them to take photos and put together anti gay flyers n shit.


                          And for no other reason than to have them refuse just so that you can sue them, which is the case with this Baker and gay couple. They knew going in that their finishing touches to the cake would be refused, and this poor baker has lost employees and a ton of his business over this, forget the legal costs involved with a case making it all the way to SCOTUS. Just vindictive, vicious, nasty behavior.
                          Last edited by Kapture1; January 3, 2018, 10:30 AM.

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                          • So, this forum it chalked full of nerds...how many of you participated in Debate in high school?

                            Thoughts on it? My son is going to be in the class and club next semester, and I have no idea what he?s getting into.

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                            • I played football, baseball, and wrestled. Didn't have time for that nerd stuff.

                              :::flexes in the mirror; runs off to practice karate on the beach:::
                              "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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                              • Crane technique. If do correct, no can defend.

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