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Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View PostWhen you've lost Piers Morgan and Paul Joseph Watson, who works with Alex Jones for God's sake, you've gone off the deep end
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Sarah Sanders was on tv and said that it's irrelevant if the videos Trump shared are real or fake (one is conclusively fake), all that matters is that the 'threat' is real and the President is to be praised for drawing attention to the matter.
That's like saying it doesn't matter if the Protocols of Zion are real or fake...the 'threat' is real...
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Originally posted by Ghengis Jon View PostChina's biggest fear is a unified, pro-Western Korea on its border. Any conflict will trigger a flood of malnourished NK refugees into China. The current status quo is perfect for China as it keeps the US off balance. The US ceded economic influence in the region to China by withdrawing from the Trans Pac trade agreement. Countries like the Phillipines and Japan are gaining a credible "US out" segment of the voting population. Having to deal with nuclear psychos like Kim ties down the US military, allowing for things like China creating islands/building naval bases where they shouldn't be. Then when the POSOTUS goes to China, he gets his ego stroked and what became of his 'tough on NK' talks? Nothing, NK launches (yet another) ICBM in Japan's direction.
Sanctions do nothing other than harm the general population. China enables 85% of NK's hard currency. China is quite happy with the status quo. At this point, there are only two options for neutralizing NK's nuclear program: a military strike or a coup from within.
Time to tell China straight. Have your lapdog terminate his nuclear program or we will remove the regime. You got thirty days.
Lots of options for formenting trouble within NK, less than a military strike. Time to draw up plans and put China on notice.Originally posted by hack View Post"Time to tell China straight. Have your lapdog terminate his nuclear program or we will remove the regime. You got thirty days."
Ultimately it stops as soon as China wants it to stop, because when you provide 70% of food and energy to a country, you own it. It's tons easier for them to remove the regime than for us to do it. Us doing it would require a massive amount of stealth if it's a military solution, or money if it's a intelligence-backed coup. We know so much less about how the place works than China does. But if we don't do it ourselves, and instead demand that China do it, then that finally settles the question of who the real regional power is, and that would be in favor of China and against the US in terms of the global power balance. You can't be the guarantor of security in the region, and reap all the soft-power benefits of that, if you can't solve the problem yourself. On paper it looks like a massive loss of influence with Korea and Japan and perhaps Australia and Indonesia. These are massive economies and crucial countries to have sway over.
Maybe what we're seeing here fits with the other big steps China has taken lately. For years the status quo has benefited everyone -- a Kim gets to grandstand, China has NK as a tool to test the US, and the US gets to pretend it still is potentially the regional power. Maybe China now feels ready to finally force the issue, because it's their economy that will suffer the most from regional instability because of how export depended they are. So, escalate this and then shut it down. Take advantage of an ignorant POTUS who may not fully understand the power dynamic, and make clear who is the rising power and who is the falling one. They know, according to their plan, that the time will come to make this move. Maybe in the past they thought it was further off into the future, but they also know that as long as Trump is president they have an opportunity for intellectual arbitrage that may never present itself again.
Best two posts I've seen in months on the internet. Informative, logical and policy focused. Very well done gents!To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi
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Compared to Ken Starr's epic journey that led him all the way to consensual sex in the White House, this is going to end up looking like an afternoon's work. I was expecting it to go a lot longer, (1)but things are pretty clear now. Flynn's flipped, and that only happens when the flipper can deliver you the goods on someone more high profile. That's basically Trump and his family, (2)probably Pence, maybe Sessions, and maybe the GOP as an institution, if we're to believe in the Eastern District of VA investigation into a money-laundering>campaign-finance scheme. Am I forgetting anyone?
(3)I still am confused and skeptical on the Middle East nuclear deal. As reported, that would be poaching business from Russia.
1) Things are not in any way clear. You are presuming a "flip" by Flynn equals dirt on Trump or his family. It means nothing of the sort. I don't know what Flynn might cop to, but it will involve either Turkey or the nuclear deal in the ME. Neither are in any way against US interests.
2.) Pence and Sessions and the whole GOP establishment?? C'mon, Pence and Sessions may have been pro-Trump, but the whole of the GOP establishment tried their best to stop Trump.
3.) Of course, you are confused, because you always begin with a false premise. You assume Putin and Trump are somehow allies. They are not, never have been, and never will be. If you read the authorized journalists who wrote Shattered, you will understand that this whole Russia....Russia.....Russia nonsense was decided upon by the Clinton campaign on November 9, 2016, and carried forward.
Finally, GDP growth for the 3rd quarter was adjusted up to 3.3% today. That means two quarters of over 3% growth, 50% higher than the Obama considered "normal". This has been done without any help from fiscal or monetary policy. I talked to one of my classmates last week, (he runs a Fortune 500 company) and he said "Well, the waterboarding has ended."
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