Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[CGVT]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/0....html?referer= ?

[Dr. Strangelove]

There's too many subsequent posts here to post, but this is a good rundown of how many fake social media accounts are created and rapidly spread their bot networks.

Whoever started this account opened a shop selling Trump gear. They found a stock image of an attractive young black woman to use as their profile. They paid to place a giant "bio pice/advertisement" in conservative publications such as the Daily Caller in order to gain publicity for this fake person. They claim that Nicole is a black, converted Obama voter, who now supports Trump, loves guns, God, and loves to make liberals squirm. They also created numerous other fake accounts, also using stock images found on the web, to constantly follow and retweet each other.

Yesterday, Trump retweeted this account, making its popularity explode further. The account was created only in January yet this complete nobody has 150,000 followers already. A ton of those are probably bots themselves but it shows how quickly, with some money, you can make a fictional person influential.

[ame]https://twitter.com/Rschooley/status/894061672146411521[/ame]

[hack]

More from the Carlin school: http://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/08...d-destruction/. I hadn't thought to put it this way, but one could argue the future of the Democratic party will be the Bernie wing against three black people bought and paid for by the financial sector.

[froot loops]

It's all noise, once Dwyane Johnson announces this 4 will be a quaint memory.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Yes single payer is all nirvana...lol...

...pull this leg and it plays jingle bells...

[Da Geezer]

However, if you look at it per time slot per Fox personality (e.g. Hannity) and then lay this over viewership/audience Fox is targeting, I'd suspect it would be overwhelmingly right sided.

I read the study from a link someone here posted. I believe it was based on the amount of time devoted to each side left v. right. My recollection was that it involved the whole day's programming.

Jeff, as I've said several times, FOX news found success because it found a niche, ie: 53% of the American public. The reason that FOX's viewership seems to you to be mostly "right-sided" is that you are coming at it from the left. In that article, CNN, for example, was 95% left-sided. If you are conservative, would you watch CNN or FOX if you were looking for a confirmation bias? That's why you don't watch FOX. I understand MSNBC is now beating FOX in the evening, but IMO there is no real difference between Hannity and Maddow in terms of partisanship or manipulation the truth. I can't stand either show.

[Da Geezer]

CGVT:

3:57 In US $.31 of every dollar goes to admin. In Canada $01.3 for admin.

Does this mean that admin in the US is 31 cents and in Canada it is 1.3 cents?

[hack]

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...ornia-dreaming

If I were the Pacific coastal states I'd be funding any revolution in desalination technology, and then I'd hold the rest of the country hostage. Water is all they need from the rest of us. Imagine the country with the three of them gone. Just the threat of it would probably be enough to change things.

[hack]

31 cents really is truly astonishing. But, in the end, there's such ridiculous logic in farming out public-sector activity to the private sector. It's said that the private sector is more efficient, but the numbers just don't bear it out. Nor does the theory. In so many cases there isn't the actual and true competition upon which the premise relies. In so many PPPs there is a guaranteed minimum payment, so there's actually no competition at all. Public risk, private profits. One of the next things I'm going to do is a very hard look at privatizing utilities and infrastructure, which I bet is not beneficial to users and taxpayers. I bet it's nonsense. Especially in a low-tax environment, if there's an area of public service where a private investor thinks it can make money, then government should take that for itself and retain the revenue. It will almost always be the lowest-cost borrower.

[Dr. Strangelove]

There's no difference between Hannity and Maddow in terms of bias; Maddow clearly is a lot more intelligent if you watch either frequently, but that's off topic.

What shows on Fox are "hard, objective news" versus "heavy conservative/Republican lean"?

5AM-9AM: Fox & Friends
Trump had a weekly call-in to this show for years before running for President. Today, it's his morning cheer-leading section. Even though they make constant mistakes and quote fake stories, this program is Trump's #1 news source. It rivals Hannity for the dumbest show on the network

9AM-12PM, 1PM-3PM: Happening Now
These are Fox's primary 'hard news' hours. As always on Fox, mostly conservative analysts and commentators add flavor for when there's not enough actual news to fill the time.

12PM-1PM: Outnumbered
Three conservative bimbos in miniskirts on a couch and one liberal bimbo in a miniskirt have as a male guest one of the following: 1) Conservative celebrity 2) Conservative politician 3) other Fox personality. The Shows leans heavily conservative; the lone liberal normally interrupted and talked over consistently.

3PM-4PM: Shep Smith
The most liberal guy on Fox and he's more or less a centrist. Only began showing signs of straying from the Fox narrative in recent years...when he got shuffled off to one of the least-watched parts of the day.

4PM-5PM: Your World With Neil Cavuto
Neil's more or less devotee of Milton Friedman and worships at the alter of Wall Street. He's a very traditional fiscal conservative who probably doesn't care a whole lot about the social issue side of conservatism. I get the sense he doesn't care much for Trump and finds his populism off-putting though he expresses this only mildly. This is an extremely pro-Republican show that's still trying to make peace with the changes Trump's bringing to the party.

5PM-6PM: The Specialists w/ Eric Bolling (pending sexual harassment suit)
An awful show, demonstrating how talent-less Bolling really is without his "The Five" co-stars. Bolling is a dumb man trying hard to imitate Neil Cavuto. There's no chemistry between him and the two women on the show. The guests they're able to book are mostly Russia Today-level schmucks, because (I assume) no one wants to appear on this shitshow; not even many conservatives, unless they're desperate.

6PM-7PM: Special Report w/ Bret Baier
Best show on Fox. As I already said, the last 20-25 minutes is reserved solely for opinion columnists. Two out of the 3 or 3 out of 4 panelists are ALWAYS conservative; the remaining spot is almost never a liberalist columnist anymore. It's usually a 'hard news' reporter from the AP or NPR. I will say a lot of the conservatives appearing on this show reguarly do not like Trump: Charles K, Jonah Goldberg, Stephen Hayes, to name a few. But conservatives always dominate the Panel and they are typically balanced by someone trying to be 'objective' and not the liberal version of Molly Hemingway (think AB Stoddard or Mara Liasson). When Special Report's hard news segment ends, Fox is turned over to opinion for the rest of the night.

7PM-8PM: The Story with Martha McCallum
Mediocre sequel to Greta van Sustern's boring ass show. Dominated by conservative guests, although like Greta did, I think Martha tries to not be overtly pro-Trump.

8PM-9PM: Tucker Carlson Tonight
Ahhhhh. Does much need to be said? Tucker has tied his career to the Trump Train and isn't looking back. When stories like Mueller's grand jury broke, Tucker discussed gypsies defecating on American sidewalks as his lead story. No one works harder to keep the memory of Hillary Clinton alive and to bring on the dumbest liberals his can find in order to boast to his Alt Right audience that he's broken some more snowflakes.

9PM-10PM: The Five
Talentless hack/racist comedian Jesse Watters replaces Eric Bolling on this show after the time change and it's only a matter of time, one can guess, before he's suspended as well. Since moving time slots Greg Gutfeld, one of Fox's most libertarian hosts, has become noticeably more pro-Trump. So this show counts as its hosts: 3 strongly pro-Trump conservatives, one more traditional Republican (Dana Perino), and a hapless liberal, normally the 63 year old Juan Williams, who comes from the NPR tradition of trying to be 'objective' when none of his co-hosts feel compelled to observe the same restraints.

10PM-11PM: HANNITY
No commentary really needed. Slavishly devoted to Trump. The full gamut of Alt Right guests and conspiracy theories circulated on his show.

11PM-5AM: Repeats
Fox's 8-11 prime time block gets replayed twice. 100% pro-Trump from 8PM-9AM every day. Explain to me how any of the shows in those 13 hours are well-balanced?

[CGVT]

Yep. To say that there is any balance on FOX is ridiculous. It is basically 24 hrs of Trump slurping with some whataboutitis thrown in to make sure the faithful don't forget how lucky they are that "at least he's not Hillary"

The channel is a joke.

[Da Geezer]

This is a pretty fair treatment of bias from Freakonomics, from 2012 to leave out the Trump-haters:

http://freakonomics.com/podcast/how-biased-is-your-media/

I doubt if the WSJ would be considered more liberal than the NYT by most. But the main point is that on a scale of 0-100, only two outlets out of 20 are below 50%. My point is that you lefties hate FOX because it is the only moderately conservative broadcast network out there.

It would be fun to watch a debate between Hannity and Maddow. I'll bet that would pull ratings.

[Da Geezer]

Mueller impanels a second grand jury in DC, which voted 96% for Hillary. Alan Dershowitz merely notes that this is an obvious plan to stack a petit jury if it comes to that, and that Trump would be better off being tried in N. Virginia, site of the original GJ.

And as one might expect Maxine goes after Dershowitz as a racist. CGVT, froot, Oracle and Strange would be proud of her logic.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/06/alan-dershowitz-completely-destroys-maxine-watters-after-she-called-him-racist-for-defending-trump/

[CGVT]

Yep and FOX is a moderate right leaning station.

I can't believe they let you vote.

[WingsFan]

The Big Boss Man tells Kim Jong Un to knock it off. Good news for Trump and USA - bad news for the Left.

China tells N. Korea to halt missile, nuclear tests

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2017/08/06/korea-missiles/104357570/