Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[froot loops]

More blanket statements in the last sentence, lesson never learned.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Geezer:

DSL:

Read my post. I didn't say anything at all about peddling influence. All I said was that the market price for American citizenship seems to be $ 500,000. I then suggested you and yours simply take up a collection amongst yourselves, and buy citizenship for the 18 million illegals. I figure this comes to roughly $ 9 Trillion, almost the exact amount Obama printed out of thin air and directed to his Democrat backers such as the environmental lobby and the government workers.

Of course, what this actually points out is American citizenship is of great value, not an irrelevancy as so many progressives believe.

I'm asking you to take a stand one way or another on Trump & his family selling government favors. You're refusing to do so, either out of cowardice or because you admire his policies too much to care about any corruption he might engage in.

And I'm pretty sure genuine conservatives have criticized the EB-5 program.

[Da Geezer]

It's not imploding for one thing, the CBO said as much...

Well.....that clinches it........I must be wrong.

[Da Geezer]

I'm asking you to take a stand one way or another on Trump & his family selling government favors...

I have to admire your use of an almost perfect polemic. I deny your whole premise, and if you ask me if I have quit beating my wife, I'll deny that premise also.

As I've said a hundred times here, I see no way that Trump, or those close to Trump, can avoid this kind of criticism. They are billionaires doing business on a world-wide scale using all the tools that the US government gives to American businesses to encourage investment in the US. They have been successful in the time pre-Trump, and they cannot even sell their holdings (if they wanted to) without governmental approval. The American voters knew all this when they elected Trump. The alternative is always to elect persons who are, say, community organizers, who have been on the government payroll their whole political lives and have never run anything bigger than a political campaign.

Do I think foreigners (in this case) will look more favorably on a Trump-related entity than a non-Trump entity? I'd say yes. At least for now. If he is impeached (and let's be honest, that is really the end game in the Russian matter), I'd say those same investors might regret their decision.

So, for the hundredth time, I believe Trump's net worth is inextricably linked to his success as President. The more successful he is as President the more value he will add to his brand. If he is unsuccessful, the reverse. I for one hope he is wildly successful, and if that makes him an additional $5 billion in brand value during his presidency, I say fine.

[froot loops]

Your arguments would be more impressive if you knew the basic facts. if You had no idea on mandates, no idea on the medicaid gap. I posted a link on case and you couldn't even glean who died in the article. It's OK, not everyone knows the facts and they need to be hand held through it. But if you are unsure in the facts, you might want to hold off on the 4 paragraph polemics.

If Jeff Buchanan writes a post detailing the issues and errors, I take notice. He has the intellectual horsepower.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I have to admire your use of an almost perfect polemic. I deny your whole premise, and if you ask me if I have quit beating my wife, I'll deny that premise also.

As I've said a hundred times here, I see no way that Trump, or those close to Trump, can avoid this kind of criticism. They are billionaires doing business on a world-wide scale using all the tools that the US government gives to American businesses to encourage investment in the US. They have been successful in the time pre-Trump, and they cannot even sell their holdings (if they wanted to) without governmental approval. The American voters knew all this when they elected Trump. The alternative is always to elect persons who are, say, community organizers, who have been on the government payroll their whole political lives and have never run anything bigger than a political campaign.

Do I think foreigners (in this case) will look more favorably on a Trump-related entity than a non-Trump entity? I'd say yes. At least for now. If he is impeached (and let's be honest, that is really the end game in the Russian matter), I'd say those same investors might regret their decision.

So, for the hundredth time, I believe Trump's net worth is inextricably linked to his success as President. The more successful he is as President the more value he will add to his brand. If he is unsuccessful, the reverse. I for one hope he is wildly successful, and if that makes him an additional $5 billion in brand value during his presidency, I say fine.

This is a lot of words to simply say that you don't think there's anything wrong with bribery. Well written.

[froot loops]

I have to admire your use of an almost perfect polemic. I deny your whole premise, and if you ask me if I have quit beating my wife, I'll deny that premise also.

As I've said a hundred times here, I see no way that Trump, or those close to Trump, can avoid this kind of criticism. They are billionaires doing business on a world-wide scale using all the tools that the US government gives to American businesses to encourage investment in the US. They have been successful in the time pre-Trump, and they cannot even sell their holdings (if they wanted to) without governmental approval. The American voters knew all this when they elected Trump. The alternative is always to elect persons who are, say, community organizers, who have been on the government payroll their whole political lives and have never run anything bigger than a political campaign.

Do I think foreigners (in this case) will look more favorably on a Trump-related entity than a non-Trump entity? I'd say yes. At least for now. If he is impeached (and let's be honest, that is really the end game in the Russian matter), I'd say those same investors might regret their decision.

So, for the hundredth time, I believe Trump's net worth is inextricably linked to his success as President. The more successful he is as President the more value he will add to his brand. If he is unsuccessful, the reverse. I for one hope he is wildly successful, and if that makes him an additional $5 billion in brand value during his presidency, I say fine.

That's a long post to say you approve of the corruption.

If you read about Trump's many bankruptcies, he has the amazing ability to make money off of his bankruptcies. The correlation between his bottom line and the country is not that clear. He's making millions off his weekend jaunts to his properties, In no way does that advance the interests of the United States.

[SeattleLionsFan]

my take on Geezer is that he is a Calvinist and as part of his religious world view believes that God supports and gives better lives to those that are more morally virtuous. As such, those that are sick or poor are people of lesser character than rich people like him and Trump.

Don't know if it's right, but it's a pretty good predictor of his world views on things.

[froot loops]

It certainly appears Le Pen was not helped by the endorsement of DJT and the Trump/Russia bots/lsaks.

[Da Geezer]

This is a lot of words to simply say that you don't think there's anything wrong with bribery. Well written.

No, when it was proven that the Clinton Foundation was taking millions of dollars in "donations" from foreigners for political favors, I condemned it forcefully. That was pure bribery, and that is what I called it, as did the American people in the recent election. Let me know when you have information of a bribe paid to Trump or the Trumpeters. Normal business behavior does not frighten me much.

[Dr. Strangelove]

No, when it was proven that the Clinton Foundation was taking millions of dollars in "donations" from foreigners for political favors, I condemned it forcefully. That was pure bribery, and that is what I called it, as did the American people in the recent election. Let me know when you have information of a bribe paid to Trump or the Trumpeters. Normal business behavior does not frighten me much.

Well it's a proven fact that Kushner's sister was pitching to Chinese investors that they should get in on her project because her family controls the White House. So explain to me how that's just 'normal business behavior'. Explain to me as well how it's normal for Trump to spend millions of taxpayer dollars promoting his golf courses every weekend. And that's what they are: promotional trips.

[Da Geezer]

my take on Geezer is that he is a Calvinist and as part of his religious world view believes that God supports and gives better lives to those that are more morally virtuous.

I am a Calvinist, that's true. Calvinists believe that no amount of virtue or lack of virtue in any way affects your salvation. The Protestant Work Ethic is what you are talking about, and it basically holds that you can tell someone is saved by how thrifty and hard-working they are. That is a different thing than Calvinism, but Calvinists can believe in the PWE.

Archibald McLeash wrote a play called "JB" in which he laid out the fundamental problem of evil which is inherent in any monotheistic religion:

"If God be God, he be not good,
If God be good, he be not God,
Take the even, take the odd,
I would not sleep there if I could....

So when you see a little girl get run over by a train, or you see kids starving in Africa, what are you to think as a Christian. Is God too weak to overcome that which is clearly evil? Or does God want/allow evil, and if so, why.

[Da Geezer]

Well (1)it's a proven fact that Kushner's sister was pitching to Chinese investors that they should get in on her project because her family controls the White House. So explain to me how that's just 'normal business behavior'. (2)Explain to me as well how it's normal for Trump to spend millions of taxpayer dollars promoting his golf courses every weekend. And that's what they are: promotional trips.

1. It is not a proven fact. I may have been reported on some alt-left media site. Sorry, but I just don't read your posts about things like this any more because I'm taking Talent's advice. If Kirchner's sister said such a thing, she is a fool. Nothing like that would be said by any sensible business person. The facts on the ground would be an enticement, but no negotiator would ever say that.

2. I take it you come to this conclusion from the photo of Mar A Lago the DoS had on its website. If Trump wants to play golf on one of his courses on the weekend, I don't see that as "spending millions of taxpayer dollars promoting his golf courses."

In fact, as an avid golfer, I can attest to the fact that when I was on Hilton Head in the 1990s, Pres. Clinton would come in for what I think was called Renaissance Week, and he'd invite other high-level progressives. Cripe, that would shut down all the golf courses on the island because there was so much security around all the attendees. Those courses that you could get onto were so slow that it was no fun. I'll bet the owners at Mar-A-Lago and the owners at Trump Tower hate the security. I actually don't think that should be called "promotion". Actually, just think about a typical golf course with bags, clubs, perfect site lines out of cover and the like. It would be a security specialist's nightmare.

[froot loops]

Again, why comment on things if you don't read it,? If you are uninterested in reading the evidence then your post is irrelevant. It's just a word salad.

The Post and the Times reported on it, they have screenshot of the slide deck talking about Trump, when they figured out those reporters were there they kick them out. Read up or don't comment.

[Dr. Strangelove]

1. It is not a proven fact. I may have been reported on some alt-left media site. Sorry, but I just don't read your posts about things like this any more because I'm taking Talent's advice. If Kirchner's sister said such a thing, she is a fool. Nothing like that would be said by any sensible business person. The facts on the ground would be an enticement, but no negotiator would ever say that.

2. I take it you come to this conclusion from the photo of Mar A Lago the DoS had on its website. If Trump wants to play golf on one of his courses on the weekend, I don't see that as "spending millions of taxpayer dollars promoting his golf courses."

In fact, as an avid golfer, I can attest to the fact that when I was on Hilton Head in the 1990s, Pres. Clinton would come in for what I think was called Renaissance Week, and he'd invite other high-level progressives. Cripe, that would shut down all the golf courses on the island because there was so much security around all the attendees. Those courses that you could get onto were so slow that it was no fun. I'll bet the owners at Mar-A-Lago and the owners at Trump Tower hate the security. I actually don't think that should be called "promotion".

1) Are the NY Times and Washington post 'alt-left' news sites? Both papers had reporters in the room get escorted out.

2) This is ridiculous. Trump has gone golfing on at least on at least 12 weekends since he's been President. Every single time he's golfed, he's gone to a Trump-owned course. Explain to me what the purpose of his trip to Bedminster was this weekend, Geezer? Can you give me even a half-hearted explanation as to why it makes sense to hold 'meetings' there rather than at the White House? You realize it costs the country millions of dollars extra to provide security every time he ventures out to one of these places?

He's promoting his properties. End of story. And he won't even be honest about the fact he's playing golf. He instructs his people to lie for him and claim he's in meetings all day. Right. At a golf course. Owned by you. Every weekend. Meetings. But he knows he has to hide it because he spent years criticizing Obama for playing, who didn't spend anywhere close to the amount of time Trump has in his first 100 days.