Didn't American oil companies have the exclusive right to drill in Saudi Arabia since before WWII? (Maybe still do?) American companies were blocked from drilling in Iraq and Iran by the Brits. I think we're pretty close to being fully responsible for turning the Saudis into a relevant power
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Left the beach. Headed to NOLA yesterday. Had a thing at the WWII museum.
I can also report that the food and jazz are still here. Also, we still have pretty, drunk blonde coeds showing their tits for beads. Bonus: several have painted their tits green in celebration of St. Paddy's day."The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln
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I think we're pretty close to being fully responsible for turning the Saudis into a relevant power
The Saudis would be the Saudis.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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we have dumped unfathomable amounts of treasure into the pursuit of "cheap" oil. To bemoan the spending of a fraction of that cost to pursue native renewables is, IMO, ridiculous.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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New FOX poll numbers.
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-popular-politician-in-the-us-bernie-sanders-fox-news-poll-2017-3Congressional Democrats and Republicans alike faced paltry approval ratings, hovering around 30% each.
The Trump numbers dropping significantly. Congress still unpopular, Bernie getting more love.Last edited by Wild Hoss; March 17, 2017, 10:47 AM.
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Originally posted by AlabamAlum View PostLeft the beach. Headed to NOLA yesterday. Had a thing at the WWII museum.
I can also report that the food and jazz are still here. Also, we still have pretty, drunk blonde coeds showing their tits for beads. Bonus: several have painted their tits green in celebration of St. Paddy's day.
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Originally posted by iam416 View PostYeah, maybe. But to pretend that someone, somewhere wasn't going to drill that oil -- that only the US could have made that happen is utterly ridiculous.
The Saudis would be the Saudis.
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The history is interesting -- the Arabian Peninsula was under British control in the 1930s, and the Saudis were nomads in tents and off dates and camel milk. The Brits let us in to take a look for oil because they were certain there wasn't enough to matter. The Saudis would never have been the Saudis without the Americans making it so. Daniel Yergin's The Prize is good on the history. Book or documentary.
Sure, someone would have come along sooner or later and the Saudis would have become instantly rich just like they did. But if it had happened later, in a more mature global oil market, that could have come with fundamental differences in how outsiders handled the Saudis. We just don't know. Maybe if oil were first found in places where the leadership didn't rely on religious zealots for legitimacy, things would be very different.
Which is not to say that American leadership should have known better or anticipated problems or any of that. Anything people do comes with unintended consquences. Yes we are smart enough to land a rover on another planet, but we also cannot be expected to consistently and competently think through the consequences of our actions. We are human.
IMO, two takeaways:
1. Solar or anything else is going to come with unintended consquences. It's not a matter of should/shouldn't - it just is. We're human.
2. Humanity also means girls show up on St Paddy's day in New Orleans ready to party. Perhaps the best reaction to the whole situation is AA's.
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Perhaps the best reaction to the whole situation is AA's.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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Originally posted by iam416 View PostYeah, maybe. But to pretend that someone, somewhere wasn't going to drill that oil -- that only the US could have made that happen is utterly ridiculous.
The Saudis would be the Saudis.
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Originally posted by Hannibal View PostYou can't assign the costs of all of our Middle Eastern foreign policy to Americans' use of the internal combustion engine.
I part with Leftist dogma on nuclear power here. I don't have a problem with holding off on that investment until the technology and practice has been better-proven (Don't put the reactors on the coast) but I think at this point it has been, and can be a key to our energy future, and our national security. Replace coal with the atom!
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Originally posted by Wild Hoss View PostAbsolutely true....the roots of the modern ME are all shades of gray. The policy of leaning on ME oil for a large portion of our energy needs is an old one also, and at the time it began, the correct one. Adjusting to the shifting realities over time is where we've failed. On that front specifically, its negative impacts on progress with renewables, and not least, subsequent national security effects.
I part with Leftist dogma on nuclear power here. I don't have a problem with holding off on that investment until the technology and practice has been better-proven (Don't put the reactors on the coast) but I think at this point it has been, and can be a key to our energy future, and our national security. Replace coal with the atom!2012 Detroit Lions Draft: 1) Cordy Glenn G , 2) Brandon Taylor S, 3) Sean Spence olb, 4) Joe Adams WR/KR, 5) Matt McCants OT, 7a) B.J. Coleman QB 7b) Kewshan Martin WR
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