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  • Thanks for the link on Charters in the Boston Area, Talent.

    The underreported story about charter schools is the number of students turned away by the lotteries. You can't blame parents for applying at multiple charters if they are allowed to. It shows the intense desperation of parents who are assigned to government schools.

    Boston was the epicenter, if I recall correctly, of anti-busing feelings in the late 60s. I agreed with the SC when it held that separate could not be equal. But one wonders what would have happened if the government had tried to bring good schools to the inner city rather than trying to bus inner-city kids to the suburbs (or to Southie).

    Again, I recommend Waiting for Superman as a book/movie treating the subject of school choice from a liberal point of view.

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    • Public schools.

      Carry on
      I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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      • Add Reclaiming and Renaturing to your infrastructure vocabulary gents.

        NYT - OMAHA'S ANSWER TO COSTLY POTHOLES? GO BACK TO GRAVEL ROADS

        OMAHA ? After living more than 40 years along a road plagued by potholes, Jo Anne Amoura was excited to see city crews shred her block of Leavenworth Street into gravel.

        ?I thought, ?Oh my gosh, this is great. We?re going to get a new street,?? Ms. Amoura recalled. ?And then we waited and waited and waited.?

        Fresh pavement never arrived. Only after the asphalt had been ripped out almost three years ago did Ms. Amoura and her neighbors learn that their street had been ?reclaimed,? Omaha City Hall?s euphemism for unpaving a road.

        ?It?s really kind of like living in the country in the city,? said Ms. Amoura, 74. Her neighbors sometimes hauled wheelbarrows full of scattered gravel back up the hill after big rainstorms. And her house, she says, is regularly smudged with dirt blowing in from the street.

        As in many big cities, the infrastructure here is crumbling, a problem exacerbated by decades of neglect and a network of residential roads, including Ms. Amoura?s, that have never met code. But Omaha?s solution is extreme: grinding paved streets into gravel as a way to cut upkeep costs.

        Construction along Poppleton Avenue in Omaha last month. Residents created a street improvement district to replace their street with concrete and split the cost with the city. Credit Ryan Henriksen for The New York Times
        ?I wouldn?t like it and neither do the residents that live on those streets,? said Mayor Jean Stothert, a Republican who is nearing the end of her first term. ?We are about 50 years behind where we should be as far as resurfacing and repair. I can?t catch up on 50 years of neglect in three or four years.?

        While President Trump has called for extensive investments in infrastructure, federally funded efforts are likely to go to decaying interstate highways and airports and dams. Some experts estimate that $1 trillion is needed to repair roads, bridges and rail lines over the next decade.

        But infrastructure is also decaying at the most local levels ? on cul-de-sacs and in neighborhood playlots unlikely ever to see federal funding. So cities like Omaha have resorted to unusual solutions.

        In Youngstown, Ohio, officials closed off some uninhabited streets. In Gary, Ind., some of the city?s parks could close ? a process city officials call ?renaturing? ? after years of neglect. And in one Michigan county, a deteriorating bridge was torn down, not replaced.

        ?This isn?t something that happened over one year or two years,? said Brooks Rainwater, a senior executive and the director of the Center for City Solutions at the National League of Cities. ?This has been decades of not investing in our infrastructure.?

        Mayor Jean Stothert of Omaha, at City Hall last month. ?I wouldn?t like it,? she said of the roads that the city ?reclaimed,? or unpaved, ?and neither do the residents that live on those streets.? Credit Ryan Henriksen for The New York Times
        Omaha?s most problematic streets were mostly built by developers decades ago who skimped on costs by paving with asphalt instead of concrete, and by forgoing sidewalks and sewers. In other cases, Omaha annexed suburban-looking neighborhoods with roads not built to city standards.

        For years, an uneasy truce persisted: Public works crews would fill potholes and perform other maintenance work on those roads, but insisted that residents pay if they wanted repaving. Those streets, labeled ?unimproved? by the city, account for about 6 percent of Omaha?s roads.

        Then repair costs escalated, and potholes started going unfilled. On particularly troubled blocks, the city converted the asphalt surface into a gravelly dirt, a peculiar sight in middle- and upper-class neighborhoods in the center of a city. Only a small fraction of them, less than 10 miles, have been reclaimed.

        ?I can?t even open my windows on that side of the house,? said Sharon Thonen, a retiree who lives on what is now a dirt road a block from a busy Starbucks. Children stopped riding their bikes on her street after the asphalt was ripped out, Ms. Thonen said. ?During the summer, it?s just a dust bowl.?

        Residents have responded with angry phone calls, neighborhood meetings and at least one lawsuit. But Todd Pfitzer, the city?s assistant director of public works, said Omaha?s policy on unimproved roads is a matter of equity. When the houses were built two generations ago with subpar streets, he said, the builder and homeowner saved money.

        Jo Anne Amoura on her block last month. She and her neighbors learned that the street had been unpaved only after the asphalt was ripped out. Credit Ryan Henriksen for The New York Times
        ?Now you?re asking the rest of the citizens to come in and essentially subsidize you and rebuild your road,? Mr. Pfitzer said. Bringing all of Omaha?s unimproved streets up to city code would cost about $300 million, officials estimate.

        Still, for many homeowners, tearing up roads defies logic and sets back the stature of a city that by many metrics is thriving. Omaha, which has more residents than Miami or Minneapolis, has a growing population, a stable economy and a busy downtown with new developments and a glimmering baseball stadium that hosts the College World Series.

        ?In grinding up streets and putting gravel roads in the middle of the core of your city, that damages the reputation, that damages the image and brand of a city,? said Heath Mello, a Democrat and former state lawmaker trying to unseat Ms. Stothert this spring. For her part, the mayor said that along with turning some roads to gravel, her administration also has increased annual funding for resurfacing by about $4 million.

        In fact, 27 states have seen such pavement-to-gravel conversions, a 2016 study found. But in most cases, streets were in rural areas or small towns, not major cities. And while other urban areas, such as Oklahoma City and Lincoln, Neb., have some gravel roads, those streets had never been paved.

        Public works experts say turning pavement to gravel can be a defensible strategy when it comes to old infrastructure and limited money.

        ?In areas where there?s lower traffic, less use, perhaps the terrain is flat, it can totally make sense,? said Rick Brader, a road engineer for King County, Wash., who manages streets outside Seattle.

        But it is far from ideal. ?I think that?s a step backwards in the infrastructure business,? said Mac Andrew, a retired public works director in the Kansas City area who was named one of the best in his field by the American Public Works Association.

        Given the complaints, Omaha has put in place a moratorium on ?reclaiming? additional streets while a committee studies the issue. And the city has compromised with some homeowners by splitting the costs of repaving streets.

        Bruce Simon, the president of Omaha Steaks, a major employer here, sued the mayor and the city last year after finding out that the asphalt road in front of his $2.3 million house was scheduled to be pulverized into gravel. He dropped the lawsuit after Ms. Stothert helped negotiate the 50-50 payment deal.

        ?I got a road,? said Mr. Simon, who paid $5,200 to cover his share of the smooth new asphalt surface. ?Did I like chucking out the five grand? No. Did I like spending the money with an attorney to deal with it? No.?

        About a mile away, on Leavenworth Street, Ms. Amoura and her neighbors are waiting to hear from City Hall about whether they will get a deal similar to Mr. Simon?s. But on other reclaimed streets, residents have scoffed at the notion that they should have to choose between living on gravel and paying for new pavement.

        ?I?d like it to be the way it was,? said Ms. Thonen, who has lived in her home for more than 30 years and has no interest in splitting the cost of repaving with the city. ?I pay my taxes.?

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        • You know you're doing well when Youngstown is referenced as undergoing a comparable fate. Heh. In Youngstown there actually are uninhabited blocks that make sense to close off.

          In any event, Omaha sounds lovely. You probably have to go off-road to visit Ahman Green's childhood home.
          Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
          Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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          • Cutting corners for decades by building roads with asphalt, not concrete...a big YEP

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            • The roads in Northern Nigeria are in better shape and you're probably less likely to have a gun shoved in your face. Is it any wonder Nebraskans are fleeing their Coastal Urban Rot for the flyover paradise of North Platte?
              Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
              Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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              • Originally posted by iam416 View Post
                You know you're doing well when Youngstown is referenced as undergoing a comparable fate. Heh. In Youngstown there actually are uninhabited blocks that make sense to close off.

                In any event, Omaha sounds lovely. You probably have to go off-road to visit Ahman Green's childhood home.
                He was a North O boy...so the road would OK. Getting around the abandoned cars, that's the trick.

                Meanwhile, out west you cannot even find a gravel road anymore...there are multi-lane strips of real concrete (Nod to DSL) that run through cornfields, connecting only far-flung subdivisons with gay names like Willow Ridge or Talent's Crossing.

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                • So you think voting matters? Not to those unreachable factions with permanent and power.



                  The "Deep State" has now gone mainstream. And militarists like Bill Kristol openly defend it in its attempts to undermine any limits on its power.
                  I'll let you ban hate speech when you let me define hate speech.

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                  • You know, Hoss, if you're willing to go camping on a random corner in North Omaha for, say, 7 days, then I'm happy to pay for food stores. I'll even throw in an extra $20.
                    Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                    Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                    • The coming Trumpcare spectacle will be something to behold. The anger on the Freedom Caucus side of things seems to be growing. Conspiracy theories being bandied about that Trump/RYan wants them to take the blame for failure of any reform and that this bill was tailored for them to hate.

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                      • Leave Nigeria out of this. Is one of the only places in America where people AREN'T confused about what the term ``deep state'' really means.

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                        • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
                          The coming Trumpcare spectacle will be something to behold. The anger on the Freedom Caucus side of things seems to be growing. Conspiracy theories being bandied about that Trump/RYan wants them to take the blame for failure of any reform and that this bill was tailored for them to hate.
                          Indeed, healthcare is hard. They are still on board for ramming through the bill before a CBO score.

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                          • Originally posted by iam416 View Post
                            You know, Hoss, if you're willing to go camping on a random corner in North Omaha for, say, 7 days, then I'm happy to pay for food stores. I'll even throw in an extra $20.
                            Don't get cheap on me...I'm going to need $25, and unlimited Slim Jims.

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                            • you work in medicine hack?

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                              • For the right price, sure.

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