Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[hack]

Dunno what you're talking about, Hannibal. Looks to me like no industries have been shut down under Obama. The only two data points there that really change course during his 8 years are the financial sector's rise and a big drop in the trade deficit. A cheap way to handle the latter is to bang at Trump's stupidity, and in fact if I were the Clinton campaign I'd do just that. But in truth it's probably mostly thanks to shale. Anyhow, overall, there's nothing here that supports any contention that any industries have been shut down, by White House EOs, corruption, power grabs or anything else.

[iam416]

I don't know that it's a perfect metric, but what's the case for it not being relevant at all?

I didn't say it "[wasn't] relevant at all." I said it was a bad metric. In terms of "relevance," I'd say it has minimal relevance. I honestly think you have to look at the substance of the EOs. To me, it's a like measuring recruiting class by sheer numbers.

[entropy]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/columnist/nicole-auerbach/2016/09/28/nebraska-national-anthem-protest-michael-rose-ivey/91222512/

Nice review of the positives and negatives that have occurred. And yes, I do think some positives have happened with the national anthem protest with UNL players. And no, I don't agree with kneeling due to the respect of the flag/country, but the first amendment is more important than what I think.

[hack]

In general, I agree about EOs. The legal-weed story is all thanks to an EO ordering DOJ hands off, as I understand it. That's genuine progress. None of the worst-case scenarios have come to pass in the states where weed is legal. In Colorado roughly a third of tax income I think goes into a schools fund, and spending on improvements to schools is already underway. So EOs like that are one factor in evaluating the president. Another is that we have a president working with a Congress whose goal has been largely just to stop him from doing whatever it is he advocates doing. So of course that's going to lead to EOs and some of them are going to be good for all.

What's actually interesting about that number to me is that Obama will likely finish up with less EOs -- I had believed the common thought that he's done more. I wonder how much of his 235 have been things you could normally do together with Congress, but required EO because Congress is what it is.

[UMStan White]

"and you focus on the one without any meaningful power (though he has implied power)"

Your Regents have no power? Are they just cerimonial figureheads that appear at parades wearing swashbukling costumes with puffy sleaves and hats with plumes?

[entropy]

I deleted my post.. You're just looking to be difficult if you don't understand a Regent by him or herself can't make the call they implied. AND you CHOSE to ignore the fact the coach, AD, Chancellor, and School President all spoke out for freedom of speech.

Daub made a bad comment that flies in the face of the school and his role. He's been publically squashed. But that doesn't sell nor does it fit agendas... now does it.

[UMStan White]

In most settings the Regents are the final word. At UM they hire and fire the president He certainly implied he was speaking for the school. Instead of trying to deny it own up to it. Question is would your president have issued his statement and had the others spoken up had the Regent not mouthed off and the vile racist hatred espoused in twitter not been made public.

[Wild Hoss]

. Question is would your president have issued his statement and had the others spoken up had the Regent not mouthed off and the vile racist hatred espoused in twitter not been made public.

That's probably a question for President Bounds. Different presidents have different thresholds for when they feel the need to step into issues...we don't really know Bounds well enough yet to have a feel for what his style is. He might do this a lot, for issues large and small, or this might be a rare instance.

Regardless, I don't think one can say that a Regent speaks for the University any more than a Congressman speaks for the United States; he is one voice of many. In this instance, I think Daub- who is a bit of a Poindexter type- was looking to score some star-spangled points with the Toby Keith crowd.

[entropy]

hoss.. suggesting a regent speaks for the University as a whole or has the power to make what he or she wants happen unilaterally is silly.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Just rumor, but this amuses me. Could there be a 3rd campaign shakeup? Weren't the kids the one who forced out Lewandowski, hired Manafort, and hired all the new people? Maybe the problem's with this family

[ame]https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/781215486692524032[/ame]

[Dr. Strangelove]

Roger Ailes helped Trump debate prep. But Trump has no attention span and quickly lost focus, so Ailes just told old Nixon White House stories instead

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/28/maybe-having-roger-ailes-advise-donald-trump-on-debate-strategy-wasnt-the-best-idea/

[entropy]

Trump and no focus should not be a surprise.

[UMStan White]

Silly? What's silly is sticking your head in the sand and not acknowledging that the vast majority of people who saw Nebraska's reaction to the player's protest saw the vitriotic racist rants and the rant of your Regent (whom most people wouldn't know from your President) and you all look like a bunch of buffoons .Silly is thinking that the vast majority saw the letter from your president.

[entropy]

http://truthuncensored.net/fbi-director-received-millions-from-clinton-foundation-his-brothers-law-firm-does-clintons-taxes/

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[entropy]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/josh-peter/2016/09/28/colin-kaepernick-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/91211066/

Interesting how who Kaepernick attacks matters...


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