Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Jeff Buchanan]

...and that is why the best policy is the one which involves us the least. Stay the **** out of that mess. I

The US needs to take part in finding and advancing solutions to the instability in the region because it is that instability that provides fertile ground for groups that, for whatever reasons, have an ax to grind with the west and their regional neighbors and have the wherewithal to attack us.

While it's complicated, the last thing our government needs to do is go all isolationist or expect the less than engaged nations of the world to sort it all out. They can't or they won't.

That does not mean brute military engagement. The outcome in Iraq and the continuing instability in Afghanistan is proof positive of that. But the US needs to be at the table as things are worked out.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Since WWII "stability" for the US has meant support for dictators.

[Wild Hoss]

...and the more engaged we've been, the less popular we have become.

There are times and places for involvement...this isn't one of them IMO. There is no "W" for us there.

[The Oracle]

Of many oddities last night in Donald Trump’s handling of questions over how he’d function as commander-in-chief, during NBC’s “Commander-in-Chief Forum” last night, 4 stand out:

1. Instead of explaining his previous comment that he knew more about the Islamic State than America's generals, he instead disparaged those generals by saying they'd been "reduced to rubble." Then he suggested his plan to defeat the Islamic State — long something he said was a secret — would instead be formulated with help from top generals. Then he casually indicated he might just fire most of the generals anyway.

2. Trump returned to the old idea that America should have taken Iraq's oil after ousting Saddam Hussein, in violation of international law. He once suggested this should have happened to provide revenue to wounded soldiers; now he argues it would have blocked the rise of the Islamic State (or ISIS, as he calls the group). He also said he had always been against the Iraq War, when in fact he’s on record in the past as supporting it.

3. He said he’d have “different generals” heading the military. But under law, a president can’t summarily fire generals. During a debate in March, Trump was asked what he would do if the military refused to carry out his orders to commit acts of torture or target civilians. "They won't refuse," Trump replied. "They're not going to refuse me. Believe me."

4. Trump said that Russian president Vladimir Putin has "been a leader far more than our president has been." Hello? Putin -- who has squelched dissent in Russia and taken over parts of Crimea is more of a leader than President Obama? Apparently, to Trump, "leadership" means dictatorial control.

At a forum specifically designed to probe how Trump would function as command-in-chief, he displayed complete ignorance of his authority as commander-in-chief, as well as of democracy.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Trump gives interview to Larry King whose only show is now on Russia Today. Trump's campaign claims they were misled and expected the interview to only air on King's podcast

Also Trump said he doubted Putin would ever try to influence an American election

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/08/politics/russia-television-donald-trump-interview/

[froot loops]

Claiming Putin is a better leader than Obama should instantly disqualify him for everyone. His Birtherism should also disqualify him, both stances enhances his standing with GOP voters.

[WingsFan]

Psychopath in sheep's clothing or not, she has not aged well. Foreign country prison systems are hell.


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[hodgkal]

As for partisanship, I think it has escalated markedly since we elected a black president. Remember what Mitch McConnell said as House Speaker. His entire agenda was to assure that Obama is a one term president. Now bringing a woman will continue the trend.

Probably in the long run it is good that we have broken this new ground in democracy. I think racial relations in the south have tempered quite a bit in the past 20 years even thought there remains a "fringe" that retains a passionate racism. Same with sexism in this country.

[entropy]

Trump had no clue.. It not about not knowing a town or even misunderstanding... He's repeatedly running in circle looking for sound bites.


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[Dr. Strangelove]

Trump's avoiding giving any details on virtually every foreign policy topic because, although he has masterful plans, saying anything about them would tip his hand to the enemy.

Eerily similar to Nixon's "I have a secret plan to end the Vietnam War" strategy in 1968. As we all now know, no such plan existed.

[Da Geezer]

Oracle: Just to clean up the record, this is what Trump actually said:

re: generals under Obama/Clinton

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/294919-trump-us-generals-have-been-reduced-to-rubble

Putin as better leader than Obama:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRT91cdtYeM"]Video Donald Trump says Vladimir Putin is a better leader than Barack Obama in TV event with Clinton - YouTube[/ame]

[Jeff Buchanan]

....... uhhh, lipstick on a pig.

DT just can't get out of his own way. Probably the most abrasive and ill equipped candidate to run for the presidency in US history.

[iam416]

Well, except for that damnable Alf Landon.

[The Oracle]

Oracle: Just to clean up the record, this is what Trump actually said:

re: generals under Obama/Clinton

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/294919-trump-us-generals-have-been-reduced-to-rubble

Putin as better leader than Obama:

Video Donald Trump says Vladimir Putin is a better leader than Barack Obama in TV event with Clinton - YouTube

Ok?

[SeattleLionsFan]

Do you agree that a man that kills his own people, invades sovereign nations without provocation, prevents the free press or any dissent, and supports dictators around the world is a better leader than President Obama? If so, which of his policies that he is leading on do you like the best?