Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Hannibal]

McCain's campaign was already a running joke before he picked Palin.

People who think that Palin cost McCain a winnable election have a very poor memory. He was getting crushed in the polls and Republican turnout was going to be utterly dismal. R enthusiasm was at an all time low and McCain was getting slaughtered in fundraising. Palin didn't convince a bloc of voters to vote for Obama who weren't already going to vote for him. If anything, she probably helped shore up fund raising and salvage the Conservative turnout in a few red states to keep the election from getting more humiliating than it already was.

(P.S. I was never a fan of Palin -- just pointing out that McCain was a God awful candidate from day 1 who never had a chance of winning and Palin had nothing -- absolutely nothing whatsoever -- to do with him getting defeated so soundly)

[entropy]

The R party right now is a bunch of factions wanting their ideal candidate. It used to be the D's were not organized but that has flipped since the 90's. Just the R's win some elections too, but it feels more like a reaction to something rather than a plan. D's have been better than the R's lately. Wasn't always the case.

[Hannibal]

The R party right now is a bunch of factions wanting their ideal candidate. It used to be the D's were not organized but that has flipped since the 90's. Just the R's win some elections too, but it feels more like a reaction to something rather than a plan. D's have been better than the R's lately. Wasn't always the case.

The Repubilcans have a unique dynamic at work. It's the appeasement faction vs. the fighting faction. The virtue signallers versus the shitlords. The "please don't call me a racist" crowd versus the "you're going to call me a racist no matter what I do so there's no sense in trying to appease you" crowd. The former has been in charge for decades and what you are seeing is a peasant revolt against it by people who haven't seen any of their agenda advanced since at least the mid-90s, despite controlling the two elected branches of government from 2000-2006 and then dominating Congress from 2010-2016.

[entropy]

BTW...according to RealClearPoitics, McCain was down 3.9 pts to Obama the day before he announced Sarah Palin for VP (Aug 30th, 2008)

He wound up losing by 7.6.

You may not have thought he was a strong candidate, but he was weakened by Palin.

[Dr. Strangelove]

McCain lost the election when the crash came in September. It was close up till then.

Palin was initially a benefit to his campaign. Nobody knew anything about her and in her first impressions she seemed like a sharp, sexy MILF. The more people got to know her, the less and less impressive she became.

Trump is the exact type of candidate Hanni thinks will secure victory for Republicans yet he's getting his brains beaten in. Only Hillary's corruption can potentially rescue him from getting beaten worse than McCain nd Romney, who were supposedly weaker candidates per Hanni.

[entropy]

Yes.. Palin was a star at first.


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[entropy]

Nice job Iowa


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[Dr. Strangelove]

And the latest NBC/WSJ polls are dismal:

Florida: Clinton +5
North Carolina: Clinton +9 (!)
Virginia: Clinton +13
Colorado: Clinton +14

If things are at the point where Colorado and Virginia are out truly out-of-play, Trump has to win every single toss-up state plus PA or MI to win. And 4 recent polls show him trailing by double digits in PA (frankly it doesn't appear to really be a toss-up state this year)

And a recent poll in South Carolina shows just how bad his campaign is going. He has only a 2 point lead in the state and among those voters under the age of 65, he's actually losing by a healthy margin.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_SC_81116.pdf

[SeattleLionsFan]

Yes. Your presumption is that it is the function of government to purchase one side of a "private" contract". I suspect you might have a different view if a wage and price control were passed allowing lawyers to charge no more than $ 150.00/hour. Or, better yet, charging them to use the courts that are supplied to them free of charge by the public.

Try to focus on the two brothers and their 4 employees that are not able to finance their own project without a 20% down payment. In the 2009-2011 period, this is the kind of business that folded. The employees could go on unemployment, but the principals were SOL.

I thought you said the reason the bank would not make the loan is because the government wouldn't buy it from the bank. If that's the case, the government didn't interfere at all with the contract between the parties. It simply refused to contract with the bank. That seems appropriate to me.

As to your questions about lawyers, the court does charge fees for its services and lawyers rates are limited to "reasonable rates." And where the government is contracting for legal services, it sets the rates.

[Wild Hoss]

Palin undermined one of McCain's primary selling points; his edge in experience v Obama. Then as was she exposed for the vapid skirt that she is, it got worse.

[Mike]

Re 2008 campaign: It would have been nearly impossible for any Republican to win that election. Bush was a disaster and the election was the country's way of washing their hands of him. He left office with something like an 18% approval rating. There was a groundswell for a different approach and Obama was the right man at exactly the right time to fully capitalize on the opportunity.

And, yes, Palin helped McCain initially but that was just a convention bump. As soon as people heard her speak freely, the campaign nosedived. She was like throwing a drowning man an anchor.

[Wild Hoss]

Hope Solo making an ass of herself....

http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2016/...lympics-quotes

[Mike]

Again...

[WingsFan]

She's a whackjob

[Dr. Strangelove]

Yeah, a lot of people don't want to admit it, but she's kind of a shitty person