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Hhhmmm. I'll be curious as to what the after-action analysis of that will say, as there is little doubt that some individuals bled out before SWAT eventually went in. -
We're living in a reality of militant Islamic extremism delivered to the homelands of Western powers by the radicalization of a fringe segment of soldiers influenced and led by elite ideologues.
You attack this enemy in the same way as our enemies have been attacked and ultimately defeated in the past. The major difference is that in this war, there is no need to occupy land because the enemy, with a few but minor exceptions, doesn't have any. That simplifies the solution considerably. It is ........
Identify the elite leadership, marginalize and destroy them. Cripple the leadership's ability to wage a war of terror by eliminating the means by which it is waged. What this means is to deny access to essential financing and the weapons of terror. The rest of it is essentially a national policing as opposed to a military operation and is absolutely a key element of the overall strategy with considerable associated costs.
It is noteworthy that the US along with its allies is pursuing the first two elements of the strategy with some success. What's missing is the necessary engagement of the foot soldiers in what would be considered as unconventional ways and unprecedented local police and National Guard actions coordinated nationally.
There's some danger in the policing and Guard aspects of the overall strategy in that to obtain results, eliminate the foot soldiers, a type of police state is going to develop in the homeland until the threat is mostly eliminated.
We're going to see more of the kind of terror operations we've witnessed recently and have clear choices about what to do about them. We can do nothing and see them as isolated incidents with the associated murders as acceptable or we're going to accept an increasing level of local surveillance and policing activities that are going to become intrusive to some. Let the debate begin.Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.Comment
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Sorry to use Fox News as a source, but apparently ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack in Orlando this morning.
ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack Sunday afternoon via its Amaq news agency, Reuters reported. Amaq said an "Islamic State fighter" carried out the assault.
"in order to lead America you must love America"Comment
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Gawsh - orly? Obama might need to know that...
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He knows.
But, he'll blame on everyone/everything other than ISIS."in order to lead America you must love America"Comment
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I'm still trying to figure out what a net taxpayer is.
When I was an E7 in the Coast Guard and was eligible for WIC, I guess I shouldn't have been able to vote...?Last edited by CGVT; June 12, 2016, 11:20 PM.I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it onComment
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Don't read too much into that. The ISIS 'media center' didn't claim responsibility until after it had been announced on TV that Loon E. Tunes had pledged allegiance on a 911 call.Originally posted by lineygoblue View Post“Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho MarxComment
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I think it matters little actually. Fox News spoke with the gunman's ex-wife earlier today. They were married for several years now divorced, she claimed he was a psychotic nut that beat her for countless petty reasons. They met online, a mail-order bride from Uzbekistan. In her opinion, he was crazy, volatile, easily angered and a very dangerous man to himself and others.
This guy was probably suicidal and latching on to Islamic Jihad gave him an easy way out.
This tragedy looks more like a mass murder followed by suicide by the Police.Last edited by Prime2; June 12, 2016, 06:02 PM."Whole milk, not the candy-ass 2-percent or skim milk."Comment
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I'm now reading this was about being homophobic and a gun problem in America. His ties to ISIS was just a curiosity... Nothing more.
That is the new spin..
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That's plausible, OP. I want to hear the 911 call. That will tell us something about the state of mind. Tenor of voice, consistancy of message, focus of subject, 1st, 2nd, or 3rd person speech, statement or plan, detached or taunting, etc. It could be telling or just an abrupt burst. I'd like to hear that call.“Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho MarxComment
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Entered a nightclub around 2a with guns and a bomb. Oh all about curious
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It may have been an Islamist mis understanding
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54 dead by mistake
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Stop being an asshole, Coop.To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" KobayashiComment
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Yeah, take it back to the asshole side of the forumI feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it onComment
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