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  • #5731
    Trump didn't need Ohio per se, but his margin for error is practically nonexistent at this point if he wants to get to 1237.

    Originally posted by WingsFan View Post
    Big night for Hillary on the left hammering Bernie in FL and Ohio, he should start thinking about bowing out soon. It's over its been over.
    Suicide hotlines are currently flooded with calls from 22 year old Socialists who gave all of their rent money to Bernie in the hopes that he would wipe away the $100,000 of student debt that they acquired getting a degree in Native American Transgender studies.
    Last edited by Hannibal; March 16, 2016, 07:34 AM.
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    • #5732
      I was a little surprised at how convincingly Kasich won Ohio.
      Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
      Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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      • #5733
        I am and I'm not. About 70% of the people that I associate with on a day-to-day basis are Repubs and not a single one of them voted for Trump.

        On average, Trump is underperforming his poll numbers. In some cases, significantly so.

        Next up -- Arizona and Utah. Trump and Cruz will win those states handily. It will be WTA for Cruz if he gets to 50% in Utah. I would be surprised if he doesn't. Considering what the math looks like, just about any WTA total going to Cruz is disastrous for Trump at this point. I'm pretty sure that this will be the first time ever that the Utah caucus is actually interesting.
        Last edited by Hannibal; March 16, 2016, 07:43 AM.
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        • #5734
          As for Trump, he doesn't need 1237 anymore, he just needs to maintain his margin over Cruz. If he's up by 250 going to the convention, then there's really not much of a case for Cruz. If it's much closer, then there's a very fair argument to be made.
          Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
          Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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          • #5735
            250 isn't a huge margin. It might be close enough to make a Cruz/Kasich ticket palatable for people.

            Kasich basically earned his VP nomination last night if he wants it. Not a huge fan but he would be a really good choice for that spot for a few reasons.
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            • #5736
              It will be interesting in the fall if the Dem is a big business free trader and the Repub is a trade protectionist.
              To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi
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              • #5737
                Originally posted by Ghengis Jon View Post
                Are you implying that government might be corrupt? This is Merica fer gosh sakes.
                I'm afraid it's Merica for whomever is in charge, my friend. The rest of us can like it or lump it.
                "in order to lead America you must love America"
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                • #5738
                  It will be interesting in the fall if the Dem is a big business free trader and the Repub is a trade protectionist.
                  I know. Just when I was about to cast my first ever ballot for an R for President. I guess I'll stay independent for awhile.

                  The Ohio and Florida polls on Trump v Clinton suggest what I firmly believe...Trump has little to no chance in November. He won't get McGovern'd because the blue state/red state thing is so entrenched. But he ain't winning -- and the point to make re Trump/Clinton is that voters have TONS of info on these two...they are, by far and away, the two most "known" candidates so you wouldn't anticipate a ton of sway. Or I wouldn't.
                  Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                  Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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                  • #5739
                    Also, of note, Rubio voters break fairly heavily for Cruz. I don't think there's any question that Cruz wins Missouri if Rubio is out. He might have even won NC, but that would have required a 75% break for Cruz.

                    Cruz is going to win Utah in a walk next Tuesday. The big question is whether he can win Arizona. I haven't seen any polls there, but I suspect Trump probably wins Arizona. BUT, if Cruz can win both those states that will buy him some real momentum going into a bit of a break period. He'll then need to win Wisconsin in April.
                    Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                    Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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                    • #5740
                      I can't wait for a brokered convention/GOP cage match. Actually, it's the aftermath that will be most interesting. (Unless the Repubs go into Dem mode and simply vote for the nominee like good little sheep.)


                      Trump vs Cruz = Asmodeus vs Beelzebub
                      “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx
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                      • #5741
                        A LOT of the states remaining are "more left." I can't imagine Cruz winning Oregon, California, or NY for example.

                        My point: Cruz won't get more delegates than Trump when it's over, but it will be very close for Trump to get 1237.
                        AAL 2023 - Alim McNeill
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                        • #5742
                          Agreed. But thats why Rubio should have stayed in. If he honestly cared about the future of America, he should have hung tough just to suck delegates away from Trump. I'm thinking Trump will come stupidly close to getting enough delegates, maybe fall 5 or 6 short. Rubio should hang in to help widen the gap.
                          “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx
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                          • #5743
                            Originally posted by Ghengis Jon View Post
                            Agreed. But thats why Rubio should have stayed in. If he honestly cared about the future of America, he should have hung tough just to suck delegates away from Trump. I'm thinking Trump will come stupidly close to getting enough delegates, maybe fall 5 or 6 short. Rubio should hang in to help widen the gap.
                            I don't see how this would help America. Is Cruz a better choice? Either of the two is a disaster.
                            I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on
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                            • #5744
                              You've got to have money. I think that Rubio's donors were rapidly losing faith in him. His crowds were shrinking badly.
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