Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Da Geezer]

Where did you get the article on "Bill's women", CGVT?

If Trump were denied using the word "amazing!" the man would not be able to talk at all.

[entropy]

WM.. he's treating this like a reality show.


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[WingsFan]

No. I believe the words that came directly out of Trump's mouth

Think about it, the theme is Trump does nothing but lie. And lie, all he does is lie ...all the time! Now why is that not a lie? Its positively the the truth, etched in stone THE TRUTH directly out of the liar's mouth.

[entropy]

https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/elections/2016/10/12/nyc-elections-commissioner-caught-tape-explaining-democrats-commit-voter-fraud/

Voter fraud caught on tape?


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[entropy]

Think about it, the theme is Trump does nothing but lie. And lie, all he does is lie ...all the time! Now why is that not a lie? Its positively the the truth, etched in stone THE TRUTH directly out of the liar's mouth.

I get your point about selective belief.. but I think the number of women coming forward suggest he wasn't making things up to brag or posture.


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[entropy]

https://sharylattkisson.com/the-clearest-no-spin-summary-of-fbi-report-on-hillary-clinton-email/

No spin summary on FBI report


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[froot loops]

Another story about Trump, this time with a People reporter

Http://people.com/politics/donald-trump-attacked-people-writer/

[Wild Hoss]

This is going to be the worst three weeks in American politics since Watergate...and all for nothing. Can't wait.

[Dr. Strangelove]

He hasn't followed through on any of these...

[ame]https://twitter.com/martinstabe/status/786483621783670785[/ame]

[Dr. Strangelove]

On another note the Trump campaign told its staffers that it's officially stopping operations in Virginia. Unwinnable.

[iam416]

I'm not sure why they included "in Virginia."

[Dr. Strangelove]

I'm not sure why they included "in Virginia."

Heh

[iam416]

DSL:

Political theory question -- it's down ticket/up ticket. Does it help Rs down ticket that Trump is an absolute certainty to lose -- and most every voter now knows it (though they should have months ago)? Does it help Rs in congressional races to be able to pitch the "check on HRC" line with real conviction? Or does the threat of turnout drops negate that? And on turnout, with HRC so clearly winning everywhere, does that hurt the traditional D GOTV machine that dominates in election years -- more specifically,will progressives feel the need to vote for PAH b/c it's in the f'n bag?

My sense -- purely gut -- is that voters are way more inclined to split ballots than before and I don't think the Ds will get an Obama-esque turnout. I still think it's enough to make the Senate 50/50, though.

Or, it could all go as it has always gone -- the Rs have poor turnout; the down-ticket Rs are obliterated by Trump; the Ds GOTV operates as it always has....and Pelosi is Speaker of the House.

[froot loops]

One of the important factors in the ticket splitting scenarios is the down ballot candidates generally will campaign on that theme.

[Dr. Strangelove]

DSL:

Political theory question -- it's down ticket/up ticket. Does it help Rs down ticket that Trump is an absolute certainty to lose -- and most every voter now knows it (though they should have months ago)? Does it help Rs in congressional races to be able to pitch the "check on HRC" line with real conviction? Or does the threat of turnout drops negate that? And on turnout, with HRC so clearly winning everywhere, does that hurt the traditional D GOTV machine that dominates in election years -- more specifically,will progressives feel the need to vote for PAH b/c it's in the f'n bag?

My sense -- purely gut -- is that voters are way more inclined to split ballots than before and I don't think the Ds will get an Obama-esque turnout. I still think it's enough to make the Senate 50/50, though.

Or, it could all go as it has always gone -- the Rs have poor turnout; the down-ticket Rs are obliterated by Trump; the Ds GOTV operates as it always has....and Pelosi is Speaker of the House.

To your point, I saw last night that Google searches for "how to write in a candidate" were very high in states considered "safe", but not so much in the swing states. So perhaps the margins of victory in the reddest and bluest states will actually not be as high this year.

I really don't have a sense for how many people will split tickets. It's also possible that a lot of Trump's hardcore supporters will vote for him and not even vote in the down ballot races if they perceive he's not getting the support he 'deserves'.