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  • Originally posted by crashcourse View Post
    I think clinton deported 12 million in his two terms and obama 8 mil or so. what was the definition of due process back then--did they nget hearings or were they just identified found and kicjed out
    I was on a CG Cutter out of Key West when the Cubans were taking to rafts and anything that floats to cross The Straights of Florida when Clinton was President. My 110' ship alone picked a couple thousand Cubans. At one time we had about thirty cutters there patrolling the straights. The policy when we first started was that when we found a raft we would pick up the people and take them back to Key West to be turned over to BP. They were assigned a hearing date and then let loose on the streets of Miami. Most of them didn't return for their hearings. The US has a "wet foot, dry foot" policy. If they made it to US soil they had to have a hearing, if we found them at sea we sent them back. At first they held them at GITMO and evaluated and if determined to have a case would be sent to the US but there were too many handle at GITMO so they put an immigration officer on board to determine if they were political or economic refugees. Political came to the US the rest we took to Cabanas Cuba and dropped them off to Cuban Officials. (We used to trade fishing gear for cigars when the Cuban harbor pilots came on board to pilot us into port)
    I am not sure if I ever saw a political refugee so the vast majority went back to Cuba. I don't know what the did with the thousands that were held at GITMO. I am not sure if that is considered us soil or not, but that would determine their stat.

    It was a bit different at sea but way I understand it, and it may have changed, but if a refugee gets into the country, he is entitled to a hearing.
    I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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    • I was on a CG Cutter out of Key West when the Cubans were taking to rafts and anything that floats to cross The Straights of Florida when Clinton was President. My 110' ship alone picked a couple thousand Cubans.
      If you were on a 110' you sure got bounced around a lot in the open seas. Seasickness was likely always present.
      "Never iron a four-leaf clover, because you don't want to press your luck"

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      • Originally posted by lineygoblue View Post

        If you were on a 110' you sure got bounced around a lot in the open seas. Seasickness was likely always present.
        When comes to sea sickness, we always said that there's them that has been, and them that will be... Ha!
        I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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        • Yeah, I spoke to guys who served on the 378's, and they said even those bounced around like a cork. Not sure if it was a joke or not, but my friend said they had to learn to walk on the bulkheads to get around ... lol
          "Never iron a four-leaf clover, because you don't want to press your luck"

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