Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[THE_WIZARD_]

I don't know who's happier, your first ex-wife or your second ex-wife...

Not sure about my exes...but Mrs. Liney sure is happy around me...

[Da Geezer]

One comment about the electoral college: it's a myth that it allows small states to "matter". It's the Senate that actually does do that. The electoral college does not. No candidates since Nixon '68 campaign in places like North Dakota, Alaska, Wyoming, Vermont, Rhode Island, or Delaware. Instead the EC gives an over-sized importance to whatever handful of swing states exist any given year. And those tend to be medium-to-larger states with big cities in them.

Also New York City and Los Angeles are as much "Real America" as your Shiawassee slice of heaven.

Nonsense.

1. The EC allows each state to hold its own elections using its own rules. As I have pointed out often, 98% of registered voters allegedly voted in 2020. The usual turnout is around 70%, so there is that. It happened because CA and NY and some other Dem states choose not to guard their elections against non-citizen voting. In 2016, much was made of Hilary getting a majority of the popular vote, but if you took out her large margin in CA, the rest of the US went for Trump. The EC protects the honest states from being overwhelmed by the dishonest states. BTW, where did those 8 million Biden voters go in 2024?
2. The EC facilitates a decision. In 1860, the popular vote was split four ways, but Lincoln won the EC quite readily. It makes sense for "battleground" states to determine the Presidential election in a split country.
3. The Senate, since the adoption of the 17th amendment (direct election of Senators) has changed making the Senate into something like a less-populated House of Representatives. Originally, the legislatures of the several states would elect Senators. And Senators were supposed to represent the State. Now, Senate races are national, drawing billions of dollars from out-of-state entities trying to buy a Senator. The `17th amendment severely diminished the planned small-state representation in the Senate.
4. Large cities have historically been the locus of fraudulent voting, way back to the days of Tammany Hall and the Daly Machine. The EC protects more rural areas of the US (aka the real America) from illegal voting.

[Hannibal]

Suing for "election interference" because someone published a poll that showed your opponent winning is much more asinine than the defamation claim. He'll lose and it might not even reach the discovery phase, but the message will be sent.

The Selzer poll was almost certainly (IMHO) a market manipulation measure. The betting markets shifted significantly because of that poll. Someone could have made a lot of money day trading off of it. I find that to be a lot more feasible than that it was a push poll designed to demoralize the Trump campaign. If someone wanted to do that there would probably be a lot more sensible ways to do it than to throw away your reputation on a poll that everyone laughs at the second that it comes out. JMO

I can't condemn the lawfare though. It's long overdue.

[Hannibal]

Both the electoral college and the Senate give oversized influence to small states. It was designed that way on purpose. There isn't necessarily any inherent merit to this, other than acknowledging that it was a precondition for small states to join the union.

[Hannibal]

Staying out of the cities is probably wise these days. Until they are run by reasonable people again and not pro-BLM, pro race riot Left Wing idealogues and loony Soros prosecutors like Alvin Bragg. Democrats are fond of incarcerating innocent White men to send a political message. And they aren't fond of enforcing actual laws or societal standards either, as the legalization of shoplifting in places like San Franciso shows.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Nonsense.

1. The EC allows each state to hold its own elections using its own rules. As I have pointed out often, 98% of registered voters allegedly voted in 2020. The usual turnout is around 70%, so there is that. It happened because CA and NY and some other Dem states choose not to guard their elections against non-citizen voting. In 2016, much was made of Hilary getting a majority of the popular vote, but if you took out her large margin in CA, the rest of the US went for Trump. The EC protects the honest states from being overwhelmed by the dishonest states. BTW, where did those 8 million Biden voters go in 2024?
2. The EC facilitates a decision. In 1860, the popular vote was split four ways, but Lincoln won the EC quite readily. It makes sense for "battleground" states to determine the Presidential election in a split country.
3. The Senate, since the adoption of the 17th amendment (direct election of Senators) has changed making the Senate into something like a less-populated House of Representatives. Originally, the legislatures of the several states would elect Senators. And Senators were supposed to represent the State. Now, Senate races are national, drawing billions of dollars from out-of-state entities trying to buy a Senator. The `17th amendment severely diminished the planned small-state representation in the Senate.
4. Large cities have historically been the locus of fraudulent voting, way back to the days of Tammany Hall and the Daly Machine. The EC protects more rural areas of the US (aka the real America) from illegal voting.

1) States would be able to set their own rules for elections with or without the EC. This is also now THE THIRD TIME you have claimed turnout in 2020 was suspiciously high. Turnout rate is measured as a proportion of ELIGIBLE VOTERS. Turnout rate is NOT measured as a proportion of REGISTERED VOTERS. Eligible voters and Registered Voters are two different things. Do you understand that? Where does your 98% figure even come from because I can't find it anywhere? Turnout in 2020 was NOT unusual.

US Elections Project - national-1789-present

2020 Presidential Election Voting & Registration Tables Now Available

"The 2020 presidential election had the highest voter turnout of the 21st century, with 66.8% of citizens 18 years and older voting in the election, according to new voting and registration tables released today by the U.S. Census Bureau. These data come from the 2020 Current Population Survey Voting and Registration Supplement for the November 2020 presidential election, which surveyed the civilian noninstitutionalized population in the United States"

Ah yes, Joe Biden's "8 million missing votes". You're using outdated rightwing hack conspiracy talk. The total number of votes in 2024 only dropped by a little under 3M votes, not 8M. And Trump gained several million from the last time.

Prove that millions of illegals voted in a courtroom, pal. Any dumb asshole with a microphone and his hair dye melting down his face can froth and rant and make these claims.

2) Okay? The point is the EC does not inherently give small states disproportionate influence on our presidential elections anymore. North Dakota voters are utterly ignored by both parties. Except for Nevada every swing state is in the Top 20 for population. And almost 75% of Nevada's population lives in just one county.

3) The "faithless elector" laws passed by many states have actually upset the original intent of the Founders who pretty clearly thought Electors should choose without regard for party or the popular will.

4) At the Founding about 95% of Americans lived in rural areas. As of 2020 that has dropped below 20%. The EC wasn't so much to protect rural America from the big evil cities because every single one of the 13 original colonies was overwhelmingly rural. The EC was a compromise that benefitted both small New England states and larger slave states like Virginia (who were allowed to count slaves towards their total population and hence greater electoral power).

1800-1990: Changes In Urban/Rural U.S. Population | SeniorLiving.org

[THE_WIZARD_]

STFU

[Dr. Strangelove]

Staying out of the cities is probably wise these days. Until they are run by reasonable people again and not pro-BLM, pro race riot Left Wing idealogues and loony Soros prosecutors like Alvin Bragg. Democrats are fond of incarcerating innocent White men to send a political message. And they aren't fond of enforcing actual laws or societal standards either, as the legalization of shoplifting in places like San Franciso shows.

The irony here is that conservatives are getting increasingly anti-remote work again. Remote work has been helping people move to more rural areas while still maintaining good paying jobs that are hard to come by in small places with few amenities.

[THE_WIZARD_]

STFU

[THE_WIZARD_]

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[lineygoblue]

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Los Angeles

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San Francisco

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Philadelphia

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Democrats say that the people who run these cities should be running the entire country.

[lineygoblue]

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Corner of Main and Washington, Owosso MI, Shiawassee County

We don't want people to live like this, do we?

[lineygoblue]

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One of the homes of conservationist and author James Oliver Curwood, Owosso MI resident.

Middle America. People who live here are not real Americans.