Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Dr. Strangelove]

RIGGED ELECTION!!!

[THE_WIZARD_]

THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!!!!!!

[Dr. Strangelove]

From a laissez-faire guy. Both Biden and Trump have awful economic plans but if Trump actually does what he's proposing, he will be more catastrophic because of his massive hikes on tariffs and general hostility to immigration, both legal and illegal.

More Inflation, Less Growth, and Higher Deficits - Brian Riedl - The Dispatch

[Mike]

I told you fuckers back in 2015 that Trump was the biggest threat to our democracy in our lifetimes and you didn't believe me.

All Hail! King Trump!

I have no idea what this means. Meanwhile, the left has been conning the country for years by insisting that Joe Biden is physically and mentally well when we all know differently. It's crashing down in glorious fashion.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Biden circumvents the legislative process constantly and in some cases ignores the USSC...and attempts to put his main rival in prison...but Trump is the threat to "democracy".

heh

[Tom W]

Well, acid rain was supposed to have killed us. So was AIDS. And killer bees. The ozone layer was supposed to have evaporated. There was supposed to be a New Ice Age. We were running out of fuel. The polar ice caps were supposed to be gone. The world was supposed to fall apart at Y2K. Yada Yada Yada

How lucky are we that the progs that promoted these were wroing?

But, Soylent Green, however is still people.

[Mike]

To recap: The "Save Our Democracy" people have:

• Rigged their own primary to help Hillary Clinton defeat Bernie Sanders in 2016.
• Concocted a phony "Russian Collusion" scandal to undermine Trump before he even took office.
• They want to pack the Supreme Court with liberal Justices who will rubber stamp all their batshit crazy policies.
• Spent 4 years trying to remove Trump from office.
• Weaponized our intelligence agencies to meddle in the 2020 election to help Joe Biden.
• Imposed draconian lockdowns of U.S. citizens and mandated that people inject themselves with experimental medicine.
• Have spent the last 3+ years trying to put Trump in prison, thereby removing the opposition party's candidate from the election.
• Tried their best, with help from their media partners, to hide Biden's cognitive decline from the American people.

These are just a few off the top of my head. I'm sure there's plenty more.

[Dr. Strangelove]

The "experimental medicine" that Trump himself took and proudly takes credit for? Or at least when he's not around the dumb cattle that comprises the Republican base?

[Dr. Strangelove]

Trump has an impeccable record if you ignore everything he did in office and pretend he peacefully and graciously handed the reins to Biden in January 2020.

[THE_WIZARD_]

THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!!!!!!

[Da Geezer]

Biden circumvents the legislative process constantly and in some cases ignores the USSC...and attempts to put his main rival in prison...but Trump is the threat to "democracy".

heh

I have a question for the legal eagles here.

Section 8, U.S. Code Subsection 1324 says in part:

Harboring -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who -- knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.

Encouraging/Inducing -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv) makes it an offense for any person who -- encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law.

Conspiracy/Aiding or Abetting -- Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(v) expressly makes it an offense to engage in a conspiracy to commit or aid or abet the commission of the foregoing offenses.

Bringing Aliens to the United States -- Subsection 1324(a)(2) makes it an offense for any person who seeks to bring to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever, such alien, regardless of any official action which may later be taken with respect to such alien.



The recent SC decision makes no mention of Presidential immunity for committing felonious acts in contravention of the law. Biden has encouraged 10 million or so illegals to come into the country. He did so with impunity. Similarly, Biden has tried to evade the SC decision denying his attempt to "forgive" a trillion dollars of student loan debt.

My question is whether Biden is immune for these illegal acts as part of his "core official acts...". Sotomayor's position is that he is immune. What is Robert's position?

[Dr. Strangelove]

Roberts creates 3 buckets. Core official acts, outer perimeter acts, and unofficial acts.

Core official acts have absolute immunity. Untouchable. Outer perimeter acts have presumptive immunity unless demonstrated that prosecuting them would not damage the institution of the Presidency. Unofficial acts can be prosecuted.

Roberts doesn't define these categories very strongly, especially not the third one. It's the job of the district court to rule what category an action falls in and the SC would later (presumably) review their decision.

I am assuming that just about anything related to border policy or foreign policy has absolute immunity. A President isn't going to be prosecuted for dropping bombs in Somalia.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Meanwhile ACB's position on some of Trump's conduct is very clear

For example, the indictment alleges that the President “asked the Arizona House Speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing” about election fraud claims. App. 193. The President has no authority over state legislatures or their leadership [emphasis mine], so it is hard to see how prosecuting him for crimes committed when dealing with the Arizona House Speaker would unconstitutionally intrude on executive power.

She broke with the other conservatives over the admissibility of "official act" evidence. Roberts & the others determined that evidence created in the pursuit of an "official act" cannot be used in trial if he's prosecuted for unofficial actions. If they prosecute him for the phony elector scheme, they can't try to use testimony from DOJ officials to show Trump's mindset, in other words. ACB strongly disagreed with that. Otherwise she was with Roberts.

[Da Geezer]

Meanwhile ACB's position on some of Trump's conduct is very clear

For example, the indictment alleges that the President “asked the Arizona House Speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing” about election fraud claims. App. 193. The President has no authority over state legislatures or their leadership [emphasis mine], so it is hard to see how prosecuting him for crimes committed when dealing with the Arizona House Speaker would unconstitutionally intrude on executive power.

She broke with the other conservatives over the admissibility of "official act" evidence. Roberts & the others determined that evidence created in the pursuit of an "official act" cannot be used in trial if he's prosecuted for unofficial actions. If they prosecute him for the phony elector scheme, they can't try to use testimony from DOJ officials to show Trump's mindset, in other words. ACB strongly disagreed with that. Otherwise she was with Roberts.

Asking any state legislator to do anything is not a criminal act and cannot be prosecuted (at least in times before Dems have come up with "novel theories" of criminal acts). If you listen to the call to the Georgia SoS, it is clear that Trump was not trying to manufacture votes, he was asking for an honest count.

We are in a netherworld where asking for a count of valid votes is now not only racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic, it is now criminal.

[Da Geezer]

I have no idea what this means. Meanwhile, the left has been conning the country for years by insisting that Joe Biden is physically and mentally well when we all know differently. It's crashing down in glorious fashion.

Neither does CGVT. Just like Joe.