Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Dr. Strangelove]

DSL...

...carefree highway...good to see you my old friend....carefree highway...let me slip away on you...

You're the meaning in my life...You're the inspiration
You bring feeling to my life...You're the inspiration

[THE_WIZARD_]

Stop being ghey.

...you...light up my life...

[Dr. Strangelove]

So a judge is eventually going to rule that Disney can legally rule itself like a sovereign entity?

This will likely be good news to people who claim to be sovereign. Won't that set some kind of prescedent?

Disney's argument isn't that they have a right to self-rule. I believe it's that Florida violated its contract with Disney in retaliation for Disney making political comments. There's a "free speech" element muddled in there too but the contract violations, if that's accurate, will be harder to brush away.

It's reasonably solid case that will almost certainly win on the District level because the judge it's been assigned to has already ruled multiple times against laws Captain Ron has pushed. After that I'm not sure.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Wiz

You didn't have to love me like you did
But you did, but you did
And I thank you

[THE_WIZARD_]

shaddup

....sorry seems to be the hardest word...

[Hannibal]

Disney's argument isn't that they have a right to self-rule. I believe it's that Florida violated its contract with Disney in retaliation for Disney making political comments. There's a "free speech" element muddled in there too but the contract violations, if that's accurate, will be harder to brush away.

It's reasonably solid case that will almost certainly win on the District level because the judge it's been assigned to has already ruled multiple times against laws Captain Ron has pushed. After that I'm not sure.

I don't know the legal particulars, but if all that Disney has to do is prove in court that they were penalized on the basis of their politics then, yeah, that's blitheringly obvious. I doubt that there is an individual outside of Ron himself that would deny this.

[Hannibal]

Speaking of America's Governor, Ron "The Fighter" DeSantis:

Not Going to Fly Here’: DeSantis Signs Far-Reaching Anti-ESG Bill into Law

“We want them to act as fiduciaries. We do not want them engaged on these ideological joyrides,” explained DeSantis at a speech coinciding with the signing. “They want to use economic power to impose this agenda on our society. And we think in Florida, that is not going to fly here.”

The law also prevents banks, other financial institutions, and government contractors from discriminating against individuals and organizations on account of their political views. For example, this would ban banks from applying a “social credit score” and denying services to people based on religious beliefs or views on the Second Amendment, illegal immigration, or non-renewable energy sources.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...tm_term=second

Every Republican must take notes. That is how you motherfucking wield power.

[Hannibal]

I will say though -- the love (and with it, the money) that DeSantis is raking in from people who have historically backed people like George W. and Paul Ryan is still concerning. Why are people who have hated the base with such a passion backing a guy who is giving the base exactly what they want and that they weren't willing to provide? It's weird.

[Hannibal]

[THE_WIZARD_]

They just need more public funds...

[Mike]

Fucking white supremacy.

[Jeff Buchanan]

so the fuck what? He's "fighting woke" which serves him well in the primary and doesn't really hurt in the general. Whether he wins or loses, he "fights."

Can't disagree with that characterization. Conservatives here and among his base will see it this way too. I think you underestimate the impact on certain segments of the electorate that will be turned off by FL's and ultimately national MSM's, mostly false, characterization of the Disney litigation outcome. They will characterize that victory as a defeat for his style of authoritarian governance that is anti-gay, anti trans, anti the children that love Mickey and Mini and will describe his governance of America should he win the presidency.

So, I'm standing by my view that Captain Ron may have been better off with an anti-woke strategy in FL that didn't expose him to a take down by local and national media like the one he chose might. I'll grant he may be able to clarify and refine his goals for the state of FL - smaller, less intrusive government, keeping FL from being subjected to woke political pressures that turn into absurd policy. But my take is that he embarked on a strategy v. Disney, possibly based on personal animus towards Disney executives, ripe for exploitation by the left.

[iam416]

Disney's argument isn't that they have a right to self-rule. I believe it's that Florida violated its contract with Disney in retaliation for Disney making political comments. There's a "free speech" element muddled in there too but the contract violations, if that's accurate, will be harder to brush away.

It's reasonably solid case that will almost certainly win on the District level because the judge it's been assigned to has already ruled multiple times against laws Captain Ron has pushed. After that I'm not sure.

It gets pretty complex. But, as I understand the order of things: (1) Disney went "woke" against DeSantis and his efforts to stop kindergartners from learning about dildos; (2) DeSantis and Florida said, "ok, well, no more special status for you"; (3) Disney said, ok, no more special status for us, but we'll sign a contract with the Reedy Thingy that gives us a certain amount of control for a long time; (4) Florida said, "oh, hey -- wait a minute -- you can't get around our plans with a business-to-business contract; and (5) Disney said, yes we can -- you can't interfere with contracts like that, so we'll see you in Court.

So, again, I'm only vaguely acquainted with the facts of Disney's contractual work-around and Florida's response. But, by all appearances, the contract was legally and appropriately entered into, so it's gonna be really hard for the State to tell two private entities that you can't do that shit with some sort of ex post facto law. That's the stuff we don't want governments doing. And I agree with that. Like I said I was completely with DeSantis for taking Disney to task -- that was and is completely fair. The interferene with contracts, though, I don't like. I think it's largely "virtue-signaling." So, they're going to lose (I think -- again, I'm not particularly well-read on the law/issues).

But, to the the political point -- it works for the base; has little to no impact on the general. So my only real dispute with the issue is if someone says it's going to hurt DeSantis politically -- that I disagree with. I could be wrong -- Buchanan could be right. We'll see. But, I really don't think it's a political liability for DeSantis.

In any event, he ain't beating DJT, so whatever.

[THE_WIZARD_]

STFU

[iam416]

IMO, the heartbeat bill will be a much bigger problem for DeSantis in the general -- on the unlikely chance he gets there. I don't even know that he needed to do that given DJT really doesn't give a fuck about or, rather, isn't about to go all pro-life and shit. Or maybe he is -- I quit paying attention to him awhile ago.

Anywho, taking on Disney is nothing. Signing a restrictive abortion bill is something.