Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Dr. Strangelove]

This does not make the contents of the diary untrue or any less authentic.

But that’s something I don’t think I’ve ever claimed. Right wing media claimed for quite a while that Biden “abandoned” the diary and it was somehow free for the taking. In fact this couple took it without permission and were openly shopping it to right wing media outlets. They tried first to sell it to Trump’s campaign and kudos to whomever told them to get lost.

[DaGeezer]

That doesn't change the fact that Biden showered with his daughter and that she blames the showers for making her sexually voracious. The Bidens have never denied the truth of the diary.

[Mike]

But that’s something I don’t think I’ve ever claimed. Right wing media claimed for quite a while that Biden “abandoned” the diary and it was somehow free for the taking. In fact this couple took it without permission and were openly shopping it to right wing media outlets. They tried first to sell it to Trump’s campaign and kudos to whomever told them to get lost.

Oh, I fully understand that it was taken illegally and there clearly were shady characters involved. There has also been absolutely nothing offered to suggest the diary is not Ashley Biden's and written in her own hand. I consider the latter point to be the bigger story.

And for a thought exercise, how do you think the media would have handled this story if you replace Joe Biden with Donald Trump and Ashley Biden with Ivanka Trump?

[klondike]

That actually strikes me as being a higher probability than the series of unlikely events that make up the official explanation for the incident. I mean, how else would a guy somehow sneak into one of the most tightly guarded houses in the country unless he's an alien who can turn invisible and somehow make the security guards and personal protection monitoring the property disappear?

BTW when do you think we'll get to see all of that footage?

The same way the Capitol gates were mysteriously opened when a raucous crowd was growing. Let em in' that should be quite a story brewing

[Dr. Strangelove]

Oh, I fully understand that it was taken illegally and there clearly were shady characters involved. There has also been absolutely nothing offered to suggest the diary is not Ashley Biden's and written in her own hand. I consider the latter point to be the bigger story.

And for a thought exercise, how do you think the media would have handled this story if you replace Joe Biden with Donald Trump and Ashley Biden with Ivanka Trump?

Totally differently. And rightwing media allies of Trump would've ignored or downplayed it by contrast. Look, most mainstream media has a liberal bias, I have no trouble admitting that. I'm not gonna tell you the NY Times calls everything even-handedly. But I also can't think of a single rightwing outlet that's neutral or even tries to be any more.

[Hannibal]

Oh yeah, Ashley Biden's diary. The one two people already took guilty pleas to STEALING and told the Feds that Project Veritas offered them money if they could steal anything else juicy from that apartment.

Oh noes more conspiracy! They lying! Please 4chan, tell the people the truth! Preferably in meme form!

Two plead guilty to trafficking Ashley Biden's diary, property - POLITICO

I'm sure that none of the illegal leaks over the years that have looked favorable for Democrats have ever involved a discussion of the matter beforehand and no money has ever changed hands.

Anyhow, my original point stands. You should be careful about ignoring evidence in favor of narrative, since many of the institutions who creating that narrative have been shown now to be partisan and rotten to the core. Chief among them being the FBI. We know that the intelligence community lied in a FISA court to obtain permission to spy on the Trump campaign, and we know that the FBI conspired with the media and social media to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop by calling it "Russian Disinformation". How many other horseshit politically motivated stories has the FBI worked to perpetrate over the years?

[Dr. Strangelove]

I'm sure that none of the illegal leaks over the years that have looked favorable for Democrats have ever involved a discussion of the matter beforehand and no money has ever changed hands.

Yeah actually in fact I AM pretty confident that, for example, the NY Times didn't pay someone to leak Trump's taxes to them.

This is a sidetrack to the original discussion of David Depape. Ashley Biden's diary being real doesn't mean your claims about Depape have more substance. To date not one shred of evidence has been presented that Depape was ever a male prostitute. By comparison there is a veritable wall of evidence that the official account is accurate. Believing the male bondage bullshit (based on nothing but your pure hatred for Democrats, I might add) means accusing dozens if not hundreds of people of lying, including Depape himself.

[Dr. Strangelove]

There's value in a healthy skepticism but there's also a difference between skepticism and contrarianism.

[Hannibal]

The auto-labeling of anyone who questions the conventional narrative as "kook conspiracy theorist" pretty much ensures that you don't get that middle ground.

Don't blame people like me who distrust those who have lied to me repeatedly and are once again asking me to accept a tall tale without being transparent about how they came to their conclusions. That goes double when they want to weaponize the narrative politically, which they always do.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Further proof that dumb people are dangerous for this country...Sonny Hostin...just one of several idiots on The View...claims that Republicans want to raise the voting age to 28...and their whole crowd gasps...never mind the fact that it isn't true and no R has ever proposed this...doesn't matter. Doesn't matter that JIM CROW 2.0 was complete bullshit...dumb people believe it. When Hitlary and The Chosen One and BIDEN BOOM are out there saying "The R's are going to take away your SS and Medicare!"...no truth to it...but doesn't matter. Unfortunately there are far more stupid people in this country than intelligent ones. And most are voting blue. How else can you explain FETTERMAN!!!!!!!

I'll give it to Dems. They are much better at scaring the shit out of people than R's...and far better liars.

[Hannibal]

Further proof that dumb people are dangerous for this country...Sonny Hostin...just one of several idiots on The View...claims that Republicans want to raise the voting age to 28...and their whole crowd gasps...never mind the fact that it isn't true and no R has ever proposed this...doesn't matter. Doesn't matter that JIM CROW 2.0 was complete bullshit...dumb people believe it. When Hitlary and The Chosen One and BIDEN BOOM are out there saying "The R's are going to take away your SS and Medicare!"...no truth to it...but doesn't matter. Unfortunately there are far more stupid people in this country than intelligent ones. And most are voting blue. How else can you explain FETTERMAN!!!!!!!

I'll give it to Dems. They are much better at scaring the shit out of people than R's...and far better liars.

Wiz – there is some data that shows that the Dems won by crushing it with the youth vote – moreso than usual, if I’m not mistaken. I don’t think that their “you’re going to cut SS” rhetoric worked at all. But young people are very socially Liberal and susceptible to the false promises of Socialism. Also, single women are fanatical about abortion. If you want to watch a 22 year old white woman spaz out, tell her that you’re going to take away her “consequence eraser” for having unprotected sex.

[froot loops]

Why are you watching the View?

[THE_WIZARD_]

I don't watch the view. I heard that the moron made that statement and I checked it out...and yes she said it. She also said and woman who votes R is a cockroach.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Ahhhh....BIDEN BOOM!!! bringing the country together and restoring democracy...all before have an ice cream cone and napping!

[froot loops]

Sure you don't watch the View