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  • I'm reading the NYT's and AP news feeds this morning that identify Russian tanks in the center of Mariupol and characterize this as being "major progress." I've warned of this sort of superficial analysis coming from the MSM. The details of observed troop positioning of opposing forces - such details not reported in the Western press - describes a different picture involving the struggles of the Russian military. The reality is that, to date and after a month long campaign, Russian military forces have failed to obtain any of their initial primary objectives. Those would have been a "shock and awe" sweeping victory that seized Kiev and asserted control over the contested Donbas and Luhansk regions including the port of Odessa.

    Worth noting is that its been reported that the Russian commander of the early and initial battalion sized paratrooper operation into an airfield at the outskirts of Kiev that failed was relieved. Depending on who is reporting, 4 or 5 General officers and at least two field grade commanders have been killed in fighting. Company sized Russian units, rather than fight when attacked by Ukrainian forces, desert their positions, some being taken as POWs.

    Looking specifically at Mariupol, the city has been destroyed yet block to block fighting continues and Russian forces, in terms of personnel and equipment, are being expended at very high rates in that process. The net effect is to reduce the capacity of commanders to concentrate combat power elsewhere in Ukraine in meaningful ways. Instead of mounting combined arms (air, sea and land) battalion and regimental level operations, the Russians are instead conducting only unsupported company level offensive operations. These lack the combat power to achieve objectives in the face of determined Ukrainian resistance. Analysts that I'm following provide this assessment:

    Russian forces in the south appear to be focusing on a drive toward Kryvyi Rih, presumably to isolate and then take Zaporizhiya and Dnipro from the west but are unlikely to secure any of those cities in the coming weeks if at all. Kryvyi Rih is a city of more than 600,000 and heavily fortified according to the head of its military administration. Zaporizhiya and Dnipro are also large. The Russian military has been struggling to take Mariupol, smaller than any of them, since the start of the war with more combat power than it is currently pushing toward Kryvyi Rih. The Russian advance on that axis is thus likely to bog down as all other Russian advances on major cities have done.

    The doctrinally sound Russian response to this situation would be to end this campaign, accept a possibly lengthy operational pause, develop the plan for a new campaign, build up resources for that new campaign, and launch it when the resources and other conditions are ready. The Russian military has not yet adopted this approach. It is instead resorting to sieges of select cities by bombardment inflicting huge civilian casualties that are disheartening and drive perceptions of Russian military successes. The western press tends to dutifully report events clouded by emotionalism not the reality of military facts on the ground.

    That reality is that the Russians are continuing to feed small collections of reinforcements into an ongoing effort to keep the current campaign alive with the initial objective of capturing Kiev still in place. That is unlikely to be achieved. Analysts believe the war has reached a point of stalemate with neither side being able to claim victory. A protracted conflict is developing with Russian forces attempting to defeat the will of the Ukrainian government to continue to fight by bombardments of cities that inflict increasing civilian casualties and the destruction of infrastructure. Over the coming months, Moscow will attempt to obtain favorable positions on the ground, e.g., surround Kiev but not try to enter it, to leverage that to gain a negotiated settlement favorable to Putin.

    The take-away is this:

    Ukraine’s defeat of the initial Russian campaign is setting conditions for a devastating protraction of the conflict and a dangerous new period testing the resolve of Ukraine and the West. Continued and expanded Western support to Ukraine will be vital to seeing Ukraine through that new period. My view is that it's a coin flip of whether the Russian Army, given the attrition in combat power they are experiencing, can wage war at the level necessary to gain advantages in a future negotiated settlement. The reality of financial and economic sanctions on Russia is going to take a toll and limit Putin's ability to continue to obtain war supplies. As I've said before, a cornered Putin, a defeated Putin, should not be the objective. There is plenty of diplomatic effort underway, plenty of talking among key representatives on both sides as well as representatives from other countries to stop this thing but it was reported this morning that Putin isn't ready to talk. Whether or not he will be in the future is uncertain. That he is a ruthless, fucking thug isn't uncertain at all.
    Last edited by Jeff Buchanan; March 20, 2022, 08:30 AM.
    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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    • I think you should publish that last post JB...might need to edit that bad boy down though...just tryin' to help ya buddy...
      Shut the fuck up Donny!

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      • Originally posted by THE_WIZARD_ View Post
        I think you should publish that last post JB...might need to edit that bad boy down though...just tryin' to help ya buddy...
        During WWII we had "propogandists" in Hollywood, that term used loosely but that's what they were, who were enlisted by the Roosevelt administration, that filmed reams of 8m footage, put it on reels and sent it out to America's theaters. You could go to a movie and simultaneously get an update of the war in the pacific and in Europe. Most of us have probably seen these things on the History Channel or one's like it. Hollywood was the nation's cheerleader when it came to war films. Was there any mention of the "major progress" of the Nazis or the Japs? Fuck no.

        I can acknowledge the need for transparency and the presses role in that important endeavor in America but FFS, we're at war, it's the initial stages of WWIII and I don't think the press or the public appreciates that fact. The MSM should not be providing aid and comfort to the enemy. They should be cheering on the Ukrainians and promoting what NATO and other countries (minus the stupid 3 or 4) are doing to support the war effort v. Russia and those countries - 134 of them - that have condemned Putin. The goal is, just like it was in the last world war, to create the impression that the enemy, last time Germany and Japan, now Russia is losing the war, will ultimately lose it and, in the end, will be viewed as global pariahs. That's not hard because they are loosing it and in that process turning to war crimes to try to reverse losses - that should be right out there front and center and used against Putin. It's not.
        Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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        • TMI
          Shut the fuck up Donny!

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            Shut the fuck up Donny!

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            • Prog hero...
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              Shut the fuck up Donny!

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              • I appreciate your writings, Jeff.

                A couple of days ago we were discussing the Saudis, and how the Biden administration is prioritizing relations with Iran. Evidently the Democrat foreign policy establishment has this view. (Biden and Obama)

                What am I missing? This just seems so unrealistic and fanciful.

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                • Originally posted by CGVT View Post
                  “America’s economy improved more in Joe Biden’s first 12 months than any president during the past 50 years notwithstanding the contrary media narrative contributing to dour public opinion,” Matthew Winkler, former editor in chief of Bloomberg News, wrote last week. Among the gains: The economy expanded an estimated 5.5 percent in 2021 (fourth-quarter growth dramatically outpaced Europe and even China). Unemployment plunged to 4.2 percent. Record-setting U.S. stock markets (the S&P 500 is up nearly 30 percent) outperformed the world. Productivity jumped. Corporate profits are the largest since 1950 and corporate debt the lowest in 30. Consumer credit expanded. Confidence among CEOs is the highest in 20 years. The American Rescue Plan cut child poverty in half.
                  There is this mathematical thing called a denominator. You should look it up.

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                  • Fair warning. This is long and getting into tactical nitty-gritty. It's important because it gives substance to the emerging tactical picture that shows the Russians are having a lot of trouble obtaining their military objectives. I'll also provide an assessment of the Russians alleged use of a Kinzhal” hypersonic missile for the first time on Friday to target a large underground warehouse in southwestern Ukraine. It's use, if true, is a strategic move and I'll explain why. Skip this if you're not interested in this level of detail.

                    A Russian Army Brigade is composed of 36 tactical groups or BTGs. Each BTG is artillery heavy with less regular soldiers than the comparable US BTG. Since 2014 and in the on-going conflict involving Russian separatists in the Donbas and Luhansk regions of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Army have learned how to exploit weaknesses in Russian BTGs. The typical Russian tactic is to put irregular separatists and conscripts in the front of a planned offensive advance. This is to preserve the combat power of the BTG for the final assault on the objective. The Ukrainians are not seriously engaging these elements, only harassing and bypassing them. Their targets are in the rear where the Russians are trying to protect their artillery advantage and regular soldiers.

                    Two points: that these BTGs seem repeatedly to become stalled in offensive operations to take cities, is reflective of the high casualty rates among conscripts, irregular separatists and the attrition of motorized equipment and troop carriers leading the offense with just harassing counter offensives by the Ukrainians. Recall that a 10% attrition of troops and equipment can render a BTG ineffective. That's what's happening and is the substance behind the Russians in trouble narrative.

                    The main targets of the Ukrainian Army therefore are artillery, C3 units and EW units within the follow-on Russian forces - those in the tactical rear of the offensive operation. Looking at how this is going down, the Ukrainians can't assemble enough combat power to bypass and directly confront an advancing BTG's rear elements in a conventional offensive operation. What they are doing, and quite successfully in the opinion of military analysts, is using small independent units to seek out tank and artillery positions and destroy them with the anti-armor weapons the west has provided and continues to resupply. To avoid Russian counter battery fires, they quickly reposition and prepare for their next hit-and-run attack.

                    You've heard about Zelenski pleading with the west to provide "advanced technology weaponry." While the Turks have provided Bayraktar TB2 drones and they've been effective in hitting air defense systems and armor, they are easy targets even though I'm not hearing a lot of reports that the Russians are downing them in the dozens. I know of one being downed. The US developed the Switchblade drone years ago for special operations. This drone is a small, light vehicle that can loiter in the air for up to 30 minutes before being directed to its target by an operator on the ground, dozens of miles away. The drone is launched from a tube, like a mortar shell and is directed into the target by the operator. It's a one and done weapon. 100 or more Switchblades are part of Biden's $800m package of support announced last Thursday. Obviously, these should be used against high priority targets and you can bet the west is providing the Ukrainians with the intelligence to locate those type targets.

                    There is clear evidence, from publicly available satellite imagery, that over the last 72h, Russians are moving into defensive positions around Kiev. Artillery and tanks that can shoot rounds up to 25km are being dug in The suspected goal is to get artillery into the ring, shown below, that allows the kind of shelling of Kiev that has destroyed Mariupol and will ultimately, the Russians hope, result in the capitulation of Mariupol city's leadership. The Ukrainians are having some success in preventing this goal from being obtained by the Russians around Kiev as you can see on the map. Mariupol is a different situation but, in the face of failures to obtain initial objectives after a month long war, foretells a Russian switch to siege tactics that will be employed in other Ukrainian cities - the big prize being Kiev that IMO, will not fall.

                    Artillery.JPG

                    Finally on the alleged use by Russia of the Kinzhal, hypersonic missile against an ammunition storage facility in SW Ukraine. If true, this is an escalatory step. The Kinzhal is capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. This alleged attack was a conventional one. Herman Kahn, one of several inspirations for the title character of Stanley Kubrick’s treatise on deterrence, DSL's namesake “Dr Strangelove”, devised a 44-rung escalation ladder with which to study and analyse the escalatory phenomenon. The step from rung nine (“Dramatic military confrontations”) to ten (“Provocative Breaking Off of Diplomatic Relations”), he noted, was the one which marked the point at which nuclear war ceased to be unthinkable. We're close to rung ten and only not there yet because ostensibly at least, the sides are still talking although Putin is not involved and that is important.

                    Analysts believe Putin signaled his willingness to escalate the reason being, IMO, the west continuing to feed Ukraine with weapons. The target and the weapon selected to attack it is, IMO, a clear signal from Putin to the west that continuing to arm and support the Ukrainian government and it's armed forces, will result in the deployment of a single strike tactical nuclear weapon. The context of this escalatory step is the obvious circumstance where (1) Putin's armed forces continue to come up short, (2) Zelenski survives and persists on fighting and due to sanctions, (3) Putin can't resupply and rearm his Army (stay the fuck out of this Chairman Xi). Anyone not believe that Putin is highly frustrated because he realizes he probably egregiously miscalculated? Anyone think he's going to back down? There's no question in my mind that he still wants to prevail and to the point of considering the launch of a nuke to achieve that aim. Anyone still think we're not already in WWIII - although a hybrid version of it? We better win this fucker and pull out all the stops to win it.
                    Last edited by Jeff Buchanan; March 20, 2022, 01:34 PM.
                    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                    • grim

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                      • Yes it is. I never thought I'd be spending my golden years under the threat of war in Europe against the Russians with a high risk of a nuclear weapons exchange and the immeasurable catastrophe that would cause

                        There's some good news in today's opinion pieces and essays. You may be able to get through the NYT's paywall as some of the Ukraine War stuff is accessible. A very readable and scholarly piece worth the read.

                        The gist of the essay is that history has demonstrated that to have power and global influence and reach, you have to have Ukraine. All the great wars in Europe have involved or passed through Ukraine and this one is taking place within it. Ukraine's history is replete with it's own successful struggles for independence and freedom from powers that have attempted to control and govern it. Ukraine has been in the past and is more so now, fiercely independent and in the current context, very liberal and west leaning. In that regard and according to recorded history, it's liberalism has secured its survival with invaders trying to impose illiberal autocracy catastrophically failing. Putin is next in the long list of autocrats that have tried and failed to make Ukraine something it is never going to be. .....

                        Up until the end of World War I (and in the case of western Ukraine, the end of World War II), Ukrainian lands were under the strong political and cultural influence of Poland. This influence was not Polish per se; it was, rather, a Western influence. As the Harvard Byzantinist Ihor Sevcenko put it, in Ukraine the West was clad in Polish dress. Central to this influence were the ideas of constraining centralized power, an organized civil society and some freedom of assembly.

                        Mr. Putin seems to have learned nothing from his failures in 2014 (that brought about Minsk I and II - these agreements are fiercely contested by the two sides and never fully fulfilled by either party). After seizing Crimea in 2017, Putin has now launched a full-scale invasion, seemingly intended to remove the Ukrainian government from power and pacify the country. But again, Russian aggression has been met with heroic Ukrainian resistance and united the West. Though Mr. Putin may escalate further, he is far from the military victory he sought. A master tactician but inept strategist, he has made his most profound miscalculation.

                        Yet it’s one based on the belief that he is at war not with Ukraine but with the West in Ukrainian lands. It’s essential to grasp this point. The only way to defeat him is to turn his belief — that Ukraine is fighting not alone but with the help of the West and as part of the West — into a waking nightmare.

                        How this could be done, whether through humanitarian and military help, incorporating Ukraine into the European Union or even supplying it with its own Marshall Plan, are open questions. What matters is the political will to answer them. After all, the struggle for Ukraine, as history tells us, is about much more than just Ukraine or Europe. It is the struggle for the shape of the world to come.


                        This is where I worry about our tottering president. Can he rally "the will" both within the US and Europe to cautiously yet effectively persevere with the current level of support to Ukraine without triggering a nuclear holocaust. That is going to require a great deal of persuasion and courage and I'm not confident he's up to it.

                        .https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/19/o...b2da6e075b25bf
                        Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                        • You mistakenly infer that Putin is as delusional as Wiz. At this point, he realizes he cannot, CANNOT, win this "special military operation." But he can still achieve his objectives of neutralizing Ukraine militarily, removing the functional gov't of Ukraine, causing economic chaos in western Europe through millions of refugees, and making what was once Ukraine an impotent wasteland for decades to come through wanton destruction. The only way for Putin to "win" is to obliterate the nation, declare victory and withdraw, and finally announce any attempt to rebuild will be met with an immediate nuclear first strike to defeat the impending existential threat posed by the West against Russia.

                          Resource rich Africa already clearly supports Russia and China will support and leverage Russia against all US interests. The militarization of the artificial South China Sea islands is the final prep for China's annexation of Taiwan. India has just said FU to the US by buying all the oil that China won't. Its coming folks and the US is doing nothing about it.

                          Putin is content to see a China-Russia axis as The New World Order. Sure there is a high cost to achieving this but Putin doesn't care. He has Africa and India in his pocket and is leading China by a nose ring telling them 'follow us to your rightful place as the 21st century superpower'. Russia gets short term pain, Ukraine gets obliterated, and the West will sit on its hands. Russia, and ultimately China, wins.

                          Can the US stop this with Biden in charge? I kinda doubt it. The Dems do nothing by saying 'we'll do what Biden wants'. The cons do nothing because it's more important to create asinine sound bites than it is to actually do/suggest something of value or meaning. And what about the general US citizenry? Just look around, start here. More fun to have our resident blithering idiots post incredibly juvenile memes blaming 'Chairman Poopypants' for everything and then gather in a circle jerk slapping each other on the back bragging how smart they are.

                          Not real confident about the outcome of it all.
                          I don't watch Fox News for the same reason I don't eat out of a toilet.

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                          • Delusional? Moi?

                            Pfffffttttt.
                            Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                            • You mistakenly infer that Putin is as delusional as Wiz.
                              I infer no such thing. Putin is a calculating thug at the tactical level and if his invasion of Ukraine is any indication of it, his ineptness in strategy is clearly on display. Not only can't he win but he has set Russia back 25 years as a member, now a former member, of a peaceful global community. He will impoverish his people short term and will give rise to freedom and democracy movements throughout the world.

                              You're take is too negative for me and as posters here know, I'm a glass half full kind of guy. Your take is a glass completely empty. That's not how it is, Jon and I believe you know it. But I respect your "fire for effect approach."

                              Look, Putin has gotten himself in an interminable shit-storm as long as the West remains focused on outing this fucker ..... so far, so good. I hate it that the current stalemate achieved by sheer courage and grit by the Ukrainians, and a shit-ton of weaponry and ammunition from NATO, is producing unimaginable terrors for the Ukrainian people. But they've been through this before on at least three occasions in their history, have persevered and succeeded in remining free of autocratic rule and the repression that brings.

                              I'm in agreement with you that President Biden is probably not up to the task of leading a united west and creating the "walking nightmare" outcome I quoted from the NYT's piece above. But now is not the time to go it alone. The current crisis has produced unparalleled unity among the allies to stop Putin's aggression. That kind of unity against aggressor nations has not been obtained since the US Congress declared war against Japan and Germany by two separate declarations both in 1941 joining the UK, European and other Asian nations already having done so. NATO doctrine focused on preventing Russian aggression in Europe has been revived after it's been moribund for at least a decade. That is a powerful means of collectively standing up to Putin and forcing an outcome that he may have to accept and I'm confident in that outcome derived from the collective actions of the US, UK, EU and NATO.. Even Asian countries, mnus China but including Japan and Australia have joined up in the partnership opposing Putin.

                              I also don't believe Putin is suicidal and despite the gestures and nuclear posturing he's undertaken, the ugly head of mutually assured destruction is back on the table after a quarter century or longer being off of it. If the talking stops, and it might, as we move to the tenth rung on escalatory ladder toward a nuclear war, the specter of it rises but I'm not sold that it is a predetermined outcome. I'm more inclined to see a less destructive outcome as long as a financial and economic gun is being held to Putin's head and Xi plays the cards he almost has to play strategically. He may want Putin to succeed and the west to fail but he also has to weigh the impact of a Putin success on the balance of power equation that, at this point, is not altogether clear the autocrats can successfully run the world.

                              History favors liberal ideals and and freedom and don't ever forget that.
                              Last edited by Jeff Buchanan; March 20, 2022, 05:33 PM.
                              Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post
                                History favors liberal ideals and and freedom and don't ever forget that.

                                I hope to God you're right, but my cynicism is based upon the less than rosy scenarios ahead. Putin will threaten full out nuke war (not a single strike) to ensure his survival. He's counting on the West blinking and so far we've not provided any reason for him to doubt it.
                                I don't watch Fox News for the same reason I don't eat out of a toilet.

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