Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[CGVT]

My *guess* is the Rs do well with the Hispanic voters because of the abortion issue. Hispanics are predominately Catholic.

On a related note, the main reason the Ds have no chance in Alabama is abortion, well that and the Socialism! bogeyman that the Rs have done such a good job of scaring people with.

In this area, its abortion, guns and "homos" followed by Venezuela! and Muh Freedumbs! with abortion being the biggest single issue that will keep the Rs firmly entrenched.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Pouring one out for Bill the Butcher tonight

[CGVT]

Pouring one out for Bill the Butcher tonight

I guess that's better than rubbing one out

[Dr. Strangelove]

I guess that's better than rubbing one out

Heh

[iam416]

Alabama voters may, and this is just hunch, just not share the values -- plural -- of coastal Ds and, may, and this is just a hunch, think the left-wing condescension is a little too much to bear. It may be that Alabamaniacs don't want Alabama governed by Washington.

I have zero doubt that the pro-life majority in Alabama is significant and I have zero doubt that Alabamaniacs radically differ with a plethora of D platform issues.

As for Latinos, they are certainly more religious than white folks. But, black folks are more religious than white folks. Black church is a pretty big deal and, if I had to guess, I guess AAs are more pro-life than white folks. And, I definitely say black folks are more "homophobic" than white folks. The difference is that Lationos aren't some sort of homogenous voting block. They vote, more or less, consistent with their heterogenous makeup -- which still trends D by a nice margin. AAs are quintessential machine voters. For now.

[iam416]

I missed this case from the 6th Circuit: https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opi...4DzjRmybFlRuoA

The case holds that Chairmain's Joe's giving money to businesses based on race and gender is unconstitutional (as is, incidentally, obvious from the Constitution). It was only a panel decision, so it could go to the full 6th Circuit. At some point, the Supreme Court is going to have to take this issue up or, perhaps, deal with it dispositively in the Harvard admissions case (very soon they'll decide if they want to hear that one next year).

[Da Geezer]

If you believe that abortion is killing babies, I can't think of anything more important on which to base your vote. No candidate who is pro-life is allowed to run under the Dem banner. Ginsburg's rationale for the Roe v Wade decision was that population control was furthered by abortion and that abortion lowered the number of underclass babies.

This was following the 1968 book The Population Bomb which predicted mass starvation in the 80's and planetary collapse by 2000. China put in their 1-child policy, and I remember women walking around with the "1" buttons at UM. Of course, the predictions never came to pass because resources are not, indeed, finite. Prediction is the touchstone of any scientific theory, and Ehrlich was proven wrong by the Julian Simon bet. Some of you here wonder why those of us that read history don't believe that man is the primary cause of global warming. The volcano in Iceland put more CO2 into the air in four days than the reduction in CO2 attained by all human efforts on the planet in the past five years. Can any of you climate alarmists point to any prediction based on Climate Change that has ever been accurate? There are none, but I'll be happy to name scores of them that were wrong. BTW, China just moved to a 3-child policy.

[CGVT]

Alabama voters may, and this is just hunch, just not share the values -- plural -- of coastal Ds and, may, and this is just a hunch, think the left-wing condescension is a little too much to bear. It may be that Alabamaniacs don't want Alabama governed by Washington.

I have zero doubt that the pro-life majority in Alabama is significant and I have zero doubt that Alabamaniacs radically differ with a plethora of D platform issues.

As for Latinos, they are certainly more religious than white folks. But, black folks are more religious than white folks. Black church is a pretty big deal and, if I had to guess, I guess AAs are more pro-life than white folks. And, I definitely say black folks are more "homophobic" than white folks. The difference is that Lationos aren't some sort of homogenous voting block. They vote, more or less, consistent with their heterogenous makeup -- which still trends D by a nice margin. AAs are quintessential machine voters. For now.

You are right in a sense, but when polled, most Alabama voters favor universal health care, the same as the rest of the country. They are not as far apart on other issues as your "zero doubt" leaves you to believe.

The Republican platform in Alabama is:

Pro life
Marriage is between a man and a woman
They're gonna take our guns
Muh Freedumbs

After the first the others are interchangeable.

If not for the abortion issue Ds would have a chance to make some inroads in this state.

The first thing that comes out of most Alabamian's mouths when you say Democrat is "Baby Killer!"

The "left wing condescension" Ha! that's rich from a person who often states his opinion with "It's undeniable that..." when it is anything but undeniable.

[iam416]

The US beat Mexico last night in the Nations League final in Denver. It was non-sports newsworthy, I guess, because the game was paused because of a "homophobic" chant. I think the implication -- or at least the credilbe inference -- is that the match was in Denver so it must have been US fans behaving so poorly. So, I was curious and wondered WTF it was. Were they really that brazen.

Turns out, MEXICAN fans have a traditional chant they do on goal kicks were the basically mimick a CFB kickoff buildup and then, when the ball is kicked, yell "Puto!" -- which is, I'm led to believe, slang for male prostitute. Apparently, this is homophobic. I haven't a clue what the cultural use is in Mexico, so I'll take their word for it.

Nonetheless, the germane point is that it was Mexican fans that used the "homophobic" chant. The AP story eventually gets to that point at the very end of its wire story (which is what was generally picked up). I'm not sure why that wouldn't just be said up front.

[Jeff Buchanan]

.......The Ds, of course, did well running against DJT and especially so when DJT went full bore and arguably cost the Rs two Georgia seats. Going forward, the far left is only going to be more prominent ......

When I read your post I got the impression that Latinos (and whatever shade of color all these people are) in TX who usually vote D, were seeing problems with the progressive D agenda allowing mayoral contests to lean R. Then comes the quote above. I was hoping you were going to opine that reasonable people that usually ID themselves as D's are backing away from the far left ..... realizing THERE IS a problem at the Texas Mexico boarder.

I was glad to hear Manchin won't support the crazy voter shit which makes the Biden initiative an attempt to federalize elections - a really bad idea that we will agree on (creating a problem that isn't a problem given state initiatives to do reasonable things re voting - like ask for ID). I thought this was a good sign that D's aren't going to roll with the progressive left.

[lineygoblue]

Joe Manchin announced over the weekend that he will not support the hyper-partisan 'voting rights' bill being proposed by the Biden/Giggles administration. He said he won't vote in favor of a so-called voting rights bill that is too partisan, which he believes this one is. Manchin is also opposed to doing away with the Senate filibuster, which has enraged many on the left.

Not long ago, DJT wanted the Senate to do away with the filibuster, and Dems howled in their opposition to such a anti-democracy/anti minority idea. Now, since the Dems have "power", they have talked about eliminating the filibuster, and of course their followers think its a wonderful idea. (so much for minorities and democracy)

Manchin didn't support eliminating the filibuster during the DJT regime, and he still opposes it today under the Biden/Giggles regime. I've heard that is called something like consistency, to keep the same opinions, and another thing called 'integrity' to not change your mind just because the politics dictate that you do so. I'm not sure about that, so I'll defer to the more educated folks here to define that situation more thoroughly.

He definitely infuriated Jemele Hill. She's the one who famously said, "if you voted for Trump, you are a racist. No wiggle room, you are a racist". I know that Giggles and Joe were elected on a groundswell of minority voters, which is quite amazing considering minority voters have such trouble voting in our toxic racist society. However, it is also true that at least SOME minority voters voted for DJT... so that leaves me to wonder, does Jemele consider them to be racist too? I was under the impression that its impossible for minorities to be racist. She said there's no wiggle room. Such strange times, these are.

[lineygoblue]

Sorry Jeff... cross posted

I'm working a part time 3rd shift job on the weekends now, and I sleep late .. :-)

[Mike]

I'm working a part time 3rd shift job on the weekends now, and I sleep late .. :-)

Male escort service?

[CGVT]

Male escort service?

[iam416]

When I read your post I got the impression that Latinos (and whatever shade of color all these people are) in TX who usually vote D, were seeing problems with the progressive D agenda allowing mayoral contests to lean R. Then comes the quote above. I was hoping you were going to opine that reasonable people that usually ID themselves as D's are backing away from the far left ..... realizing THERE IS a problem at the Texas Mexico boarder.

I was glad to hear Manchin won't support the crazy voter shit which makes the Biden initiative an attempt to federalize elections - a really bad idea that we will agree on (creating a problem that isn't a problem given state initiatives to do reasonable things re voting - like ask for ID). I thought this was a good sign that D's aren't going to roll with the progressive left.

The first part of the post was specifically about Latinos and very specific mayoral races. The second part -- the opining -- was more general.

I'm very much of the opinion that "The Left" is going to become more prominent and DJT is going tbe come less prominent. Each party ran against the respective opposite in 2020 with mixed results. With DJT receding in prominence and "The Left" increasing in prominence, that ought to favor the Rs in the "purple" districts/states.

I don't agree with James Carville much as a matter of ideology, but I do agree with him a lot on pure politics -- the idea of what wins and loses races. He's been preaching for god knows how long that it's "dinner table issues." Still does. He doesn't say it outright (that I've heard), but I get the sense he has a seething hatred for the folks hijacking "his" party and putting Ds at risk in elections he thinks they should win.