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We're discussing the Capitol riot, not BLM so try to stay on point. Distraction and deflection, the right's standard response when faced truth, does not serve you here. But let me indulge. IMO, assaulting the Capitol with the intent of preventing a Constitutionally specified duty, clamouring for the murder of the Vice President (gallows already built and on display), and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election is FAR FAR worse than burning Portland or Minneapolis. Not even close. More importantly, they have nothing to do with each other and are separate conversations, regardless what extremists with an agenda say.
Exactly.
False equivalency is the right's M.O.I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on
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Kamala didn't get where she is because she was smart, competent or charismatic. How ironic is it that the party that claims to be all-in for empowering women and POC would pretty much ditch those criteria for the oldest trick in the book.
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Originally posted by CGVT View PostWe're discussing the Capitol riot, not BLM so try to stay on point. Distraction and deflection, the right's standard response when faced truth, does not serve you here. But let me indulge. IMO, assaulting the Capitol with the intent of preventing a Constitutionally specified duty, clamouring for the murder of the Vice President (gallows already built and on display), and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election is FAR FAR worse than burning Portland or Minneapolis. Not even close. More importantly, they have nothing to do with each other and are separate conversations, regardless what extremists with an agenda say..
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Yeah, that's a bit hyperbolic considering none of the rioters - and that's what they were - had guns. If this was an actual operation to take out top level government officials I think they would have brought something more lethal than a hockey stick with a flag tied to it.
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Yeah, these are gun nuts! It’s really hard to take claims of overthrowing the government or whatever else seriously. It was definitely a riot, though.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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Naw. According to the GOP and half of the posters here, t was just tourists taking selfies
732058fc4680d3aeda24504a1fe4f3e2.jpegI feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on
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If the DC incident wasassaulting the Capitol with the intent of preventing a Constitutionally specified duty, clamouring for the murder of the Vice President (gallows already built and on display), and attempting to overthrow the results of a free and fair election
It was more along the lines of "The Mouse That Roared" than it was anything else."in order to lead America you must love America"
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For the people that went inside and just milled around and gawked like morons at things, I don't have much of a problem slapping them with a trespassing charge and the heaviest fine allowed by law.
For anyone caught on camera attacking the cops, or smashing and breaking shit, or stealing, or vandalizing (and there's hundreds), fuck em.
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It was clearly a riot and an ugly one at that. The fact that it happened at the Capitol makes it even more disgusting and I’m on record here saying more of those idiots should have been shot. But to claim it was an “insurrection” or a “coup” is hyperbolic bullshit.
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Originally posted by Mike View PostIt was clearly a riot and an ugly one at that. The fact that it happened at the Capitol makes it even more disgusting and I’m on record here saying more of those idiots should have been shot. But to claim it was an “insurrection” or a “coup” is hyperbolic bullshit.
These morons had no plan beyond stopping the electoral count. They actually expected Trump would come down Pennsylvania Ave driving a tank, with 100,000 loyal troops behind him, to arrest most of Congress. But I also fully expect that if this mob could've gotten their hands on a hated Congressman, they would've roughed them up a bit. I hope it would've not gone farther than that, but who knows? Dudes that have no problem beating the shit out of a cop aren't going to hesitate to slap Pelosi or sucker punch Adam Schiff.
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I agree with all that. But I keep hearing (this past weekend, in fact) from people in personal conversations that “our democracy was hanging by a thread”, etc. That’s ridiculous. It was a bunch of hardcore cultists that lost their shit and rioted. Our country was not nearly toppled by a few hundred angry right-wingers and a hockey stick.
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The Obama DOJ spied on Fox's James Rosen back in 2013, to try and catch who was leaking him information. Fox raised hell (rightfully so) and a lot of the MSM stuck up for them.
In the past two weeks it's now been revealed that Trump's DOJ did the exact same thing to at least 4 reporters, three at the Washington Post and (today's story) one at CNN
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