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  • "Trust the plan" -- Q Anon believers



    Operation Trust (операция "Трест"[1]) was a counterintelligence operation of the State Political Directorate (GPU) of the Soviet Union. The operation, which was set up by GPU's predecessor Cheka, ran from 1921 to 1926, set up a fake anti-Bolshevik resistance organization, "Monarchist Union of Central Russia", MUCR (Монархическое объединение Центральной России, МОЦР), in order to help the OGPU identify real monarchists and anti-Bolsheviks. The created front company was called the Moscow Municipal Credit Association.[2]

    The head of the MUCR was Alexander Yakushev (Александр Александрович Якушев), a former bureaucrat of the Ministry of Communications of Imperial Russia, who after the Russian Revolution joined the Narkomat of External Trade (Наркомат внешней торговли), when the Soviets began to allow the former specialists (called "spetsy", Russian: спецы) to resume the positions of their expertise. This position allowed him to travel abroad and contact Russian emigrants.

    MUCR kept the monarchist general Alexander Kutepov (Александр Кутепов) from active actions, as he was convinced to wait for the development of internal anti-Bolshevik forces. Kutepov had previously believed in militant action as a solution to the Soviet occupation, and had formed the "combat organization", a militant splinter from the Russian All-Military Union (Russian: Русский Обще-Воинский Союз, Russkiy ObshcheVoinskiy Soyuz) led by General Baron Pyotr Nikolayevich Wrangel.[3] Kutepov also created the Inner Line as a counter-intelligence organization to prevent Bolshevik penetrations. It caused the Cheka some problems but was not overly successful.

    Among the successes of Trust was the luring of Boris Savinkov and Sidney Reilly into the Soviet Union, where they were captured.

    The Soviets did not organize Trust from scratch. The White Army had left sleeper agents, and there were also Royalist Russians who did not leave after the Civil War. These people cooperated to the point of having a loose organizational structure. When the OGPU discovered them, they did not liquidate all of them, but manoeuvred into creating a shell organization for their own use.

    Still another episode of the operation was an "illegal" trip (in fact, monitored by OGPU) of a notable émigré, Vasily Shulgin, into the Soviet Union. After his return he published a book "Three Capitals" with his impressions. In the book he wrote, in part, that contrary to his expectations, Russia was reviving, and the Bolsheviks would probably be removed from power.

    The one Western historian who had limited access to the Trust files, John Costello, reported that they comprised thirty-seven volumes and were such a bewildering welter of double-agents, changed code names, and interlocking deception operations with "the complexity of a symphonic score", that Russian historians from the Intelligence Service had difficulty separating fact from fantasy.

    Defector Vasili Mitrokhin reported that the Trust files were not housed at the SVR offices in Yasenevo, but were kept in the special archival collections (spetsfondi) of the FSB at the Lubyanka.

    In 1967 a Soviet adventure TV series Operation Trust (Операция "Трест") was created.[4]
    Last edited by Hannibal; January 20, 2021, 12:57 PM.

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    • On a more serious note, literally minutes after the administration change, China hit a bunch of Trump officials with sanctions. All banned from doing business in or even traveling to China. Includes Pompeo, Bolton, Navarro, Robert O'Brien, Alex Azar, and a bunch of others.

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      • Ds will surely applaud the Chinese moves.
        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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        • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
          I might not be able to resist posting the reactions of some dumbass QAnon people later tonight. Fair warning. Half of them are probably fake and parodies but I don't care. lol, I've already seen some gems
          Here’s a whole thread of them.

          "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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          • AA will be switching from Chess to Chinese Checkers...
            Shut the fuck up Donny!

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              “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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              • You people are funny ...... this is why I'm switching from politics and COVID to talk M football. That's an escape and not because M football is good - its not - and I might hold silly thoughts that M football can recover - probably not in my lifetime.

                OTH, you can't have been watching live today and not been moved by the scene and the symbolism. Whatever.

                The work starts tomorrow. Today was easy for Chairman Joe..... and if you think the Rs in the Senate are going to roll on Biden legislation that smacks of radical progressivism, you'll be shamefully wrong. Can Chairman Joe do some damage through EO's? Probably but let's give the guy some credit for a long history of listening to both sides.
                Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                • Joe Knows. Trust Chairman Joe.
                  Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                  Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                  • 乔·拜登
                    Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                    • Originally posted by THE_WIZARD_ View Post
                      乔·拜登
                      As you can see, Comrade Wizard is adapting well to his new communal home which he now shares with 30 other incorrigibles, provided at no expense by The Party. Tomorrow he starts his new job in the gypsum mines and is excited to become a contributing member of society.

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                      • On a more serious note, literally minutes after the administration change, China hit a bunch of Trump officials with sanctions. All banned from doing business in or even traveling to China. Includes Pompeo, Bolton, Navarro, Robert O'Brien, Alex Azar, and a bunch of others.
                        On the other hand, I'm sure LeBron James and pretty much all of the NBA will be given red carpet treatment. Who needs Hong Kong and Taiwan?
                        "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                        • Well, when there's COVID news worth posting, I'll post it. Besides Wiz is fluent in Chinese so, he'll be interested.

                          What's interesting about this, to me anyway, is that China's communists remain convinced that the best way to control viral spread is to ruthlessly lock it's citizens down. They're doing this in the face of mounting evidence that those measures are not likely to be any more effective than less restrictive ones where people simply wear masks and distance while going about their business and social activities. But, Xi, maybe like Chairman Joe, is going to show who's in charge. If the armed Capitol we saw today on TV was an indicator of that, we should worry about Chairman Joe. The link to the WSJ article about a recent outbreak in China, small by comparison to the US, UK and EU, among other places, and the imposition of lock downs is below.

                          I write this post reflecting upon the course that the Biden administration is going to take given the num-nut and political hack Biden nominated to run HHS, Becerra - a Harris crony. The picture Biden has painted as his response to the pandemic is this cheery one where science takes the forefront. But, the obstacles the administration will face going forward, mostly having to do with vaccine distribution, COVID data collection and reporting and a no-shit surge in cases probably due to mutated versions of SARS-2 that are more easily transmissible, are significant. Depending on who Biden is listening to, I could see an up-tock in federally and state mandated mitigation measures that could be highly restrictive to personal freedoms ..... with a sickening appeal that we need to do this in the sprit of unity for the good of "the village," harkening back to HRC's dumbfuckery. Right, we should be friends with Putin, Xi and Khamenei.

                          Messaging is going to be extremely important here. Biden and others that will be involved in this messaging, have to (1) sell the vaccine's effectiveness, (2) Consider "the science" or reality of the resurgence of new cases and respond by taking steps similar to those of the Chinese or much less restrictive steps to keep the economy open and people from going stir crazy. Then sell, hopefully, the second option.

                          My take is that most Americans believe Federal or State level mandates to close businesses and restrict personal movement are bad and won't follow those mandates anyway, especially those that are highly restrictive like Newsome's in CA (can't do that or go there at all), instead of appropriately targeted (bars and restaurants can open but capacity and hours/alcohol sales may be limited). Politically, Biden is going to have to tread carefully here. Too much weight given to misguided progressive measures - where some are nothing more than means by which more government and more control is heaped on citizens in the guise of COVID science - and not enough attention paid to the social, economic costs of doing that and Americans and the economy are in trouble. The freedom of Americans is at risk over this issue, make no mistake about that. How this is handled will shine an early light on how right or wrong Hannibal is. His track record on M football anyway, is pretty good.

                          We should be watching closely. Believe me when I say, I will ..... and of course reporting back to you.

                          https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-e...ce-11611142577
                          Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                          • Originally posted by THE_WIZARD_ View Post
                            乔·拜登
                            非法踢
                            "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                            • 闭嘴
                              Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                              • Harsh, but fair.
                                Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                                Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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