Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[froot loops]

Whatever the motives you thing these big donors have, they are for open immigration or some sort of immigration reform. It isn't a shadowy conspiracy. To expect them to suppress their feelings to get behind Trump when they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars is wishful thinking. Especially when Trump is not dominating the voting and it isn't a winning general election issue.

[WingsFan]

Paul Finebaum, the popular SEC Network radio host earlier this year dubbed Harbaugh the Donald Trump of college football.

Harbaugh takes Trump comparison as compliment, Harbaugh was asked about the comparison before speaking to Detroit high school coaches at the Horatio Williams Foundation function.


He's not afraid to fight the establishment," Harbaugh said. "In that regard I will take that as a compliment."

[The Oracle]

Now we know where Don gets his kick ass foreign policy:

http://forward.com/news/national/338709/donald-trump-doesnt-know-what-to-call-the-west-bank/#ixzz45pzqYNYF

[Da Geezer]

Especially in places like Saudi Arabia, which we have helped make rich with oil money and who we defended from Saddam Hussein in 1991. We're sick and tired of being told that we shouldn't look out for our own interests but it's perfectly okay for everyone else to do so.

Amen to that.

A good example of the Saudi attitude toward the US:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html?_r=0

The radical change in the balance of power in carbon-based energy production has made SA less necessary as an ally. Disruptive technology disrupts foreign policy too.

The potential shakedown by Saudi, or China for that matter, is one totally predictable result of the US being $ 19 trillion in debt. The borrower is usually the slave of the lender, unless the borrower has taken so much money that the lender cannot enforce its debt. In the 1960s, we were already talking of a large national debt being a weapon in foreign policy.

[Dr. Strangelove]

I hope sometime in my lifetime we finally tell the Saudis to fuck off

[froot loops]

Not likely

[CGVT]

I hope sometime in my lifetime we finally tell the Saudis to fuck off

Not likely

As long as there is big money to be made in oil, we will never seriously try to develop an alternative and we will not be able to rid ourselves of the the ME in any way.

It has be over 40 years since the oil crisis. We put a man on the moon in less than 10 years but we haven't been able to come up with an alternative source of energy in 4 times that long? *sigh*

[lineygoblue]

If the tree huggers would let us frack the crap out of the country like we should be able to, we could tell Saudi Arabia to frack off in less than 10 years. But noooooooo....

[CGVT]

If the tree huggers would let us frack the crap out of the country like we should be able to, we could tell Saudi Arabia to frack off in less than 10 years. But noooooooo....

That is a temporary solution. We need to move on from fossil fuels

[froot loops]

Yep, it has nothing to do with tree huggers.

[Da Geezer]

CGVT said:

It has be over 40 years since the oil crisis. We put a man on the moon in less than 10 years but we haven't been able to come up with an alternative source of energy in 4 times that long? *sigh*

Why would we want to (other than the religion of global warming)? Blame the lack of a change to the terrible and unconscionable desire of working citizens to have cheap energy. Besides, we have come up with a lot of alternative sources of energy: ethanol, solar cells, biofuel, hydrogen, wind, nuclear.

The US is now the largest producer of oil and gas in the world. It makes sense to use what we have in terms of resources. It also makes a lot of sense to have other countries subsidize the development of alternative energy, and for the US to buy or steal the technology in 100 years or so.

If you think fracking is a disruptive technology, what would happen if we were able to harness nuclear fusion?

[froot loops]

Alternative energy has grown worldwide in the last 5 years. Much quicker than projected. It takes a while to get the cost down, but it is happening.

[hack]

75% drop in solar costs in last 5 years and still falling.

[froot loops]

You won't hear that on Fox news.

[Da Geezer]

That's good. The rest of the world has a lot of incentive to develop alternatives. That is great. No sense in having the US waste money in that development. One immutable rule of business is "pioneers pay the most".

I did notice this week that US corn imports are up 56%, and the price of corn continues to rise even though the last couple of years have been large crops. If ethanol were not mandated for use in autos, what would the real price of corn be? I'm old enough to remember when oil companies charged for putting lead into gas. Then they were mandated to take it out of gas, and we paid more for that. Now I suppose we will have to pay extra for gasoline without ethanol. We would have been better off without government intervention. Our fuel would be cheaper per mile, and our food costs would also be lower.