Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Hannibal]

On to the midterms, I guess. And finding a successor to lead the Republican Party. I don’t see any e promising waiting in the wings now. They are going to find the going quite rough from now on, seeing as how Donald failed to fulfill his promises of stopping illegal immigration. An amnesty bill will no doubt be up for a vote soon and Biden will sign it. I expect Lindsey Graham to revert back to being the old Lindsey Graham from now on.

With that said — I don’t expect President Harris to be very popular. Y’all didn’t elect Joe Biden last night. Y’all elected Kamala. She’ll be President in two years, tops. First female President.

Also, I hope that nobody is expecting the country’s malaise to magically disappear overnight. Especially with Biden running on a platform of “the cops are racist and I’m going to lock down the country and raise taxes.”

[iam416]

Also, Harrison got crushed in SC. CRUSHED.

$250M the Ds spent on Texas, Kentucky and South Carolina. LMMFAO.

[iam416]

Biden is going to win Wisconsin and Michigan. He may win Pennsylvania, too. And, I guess Georgia is still in play.

So, he's going to narrowly survive.

[lineygoblue]

With that said — I don’t expect President Harris to be very popular. Y’all didn’t elect Joe Biden last night. Y’all elected Kamala. She’ll be President in two years, tops. First female President.

Been saying that for weeks. Joe provide the coat tails to make Kamala Harris president. She saw the opportunity, and grabbed it.

Hopefully the R's hang on to the Senate so they can stop her from doing some of the particularly stupid stuff she wants to do along with BLM and the squad.

[lineygoblue]

And unfortunately, it looks like the douchebag Gary Peters will survive the Senate race here in Michigan. James still leads this morning but Wayne County still has a lot of ballots to be counted, and that is heavily Democrat. Its too bad because James is a good man, and deserves to be in the Senate way more than Peters.

[iam416]

The Senate will come down to the two Georgia races. Perdue may win outright this go-around. But, if it goes to a run-off, he should win. Loeffler should win her run-off race. That makes it 51-49 for the Rs.

[iam416]

Also, I guess there's an off-chance Susan Collins survives.

[Hannibal]

I think that Trump hangs onto PA and NC. Possibly GA too but it’s still not enough.

[iam416]

I don't see any way he wins Wisconsin or Michigan and, as you said, that's the ballgame.

PDJT is going to win NC. I think he'll still win Georgia. I haven't a clue about Pennsylvania.

It's going to be razor thin. It might even be closer than 2016.

[Hannibal]

Also — it’s probably pretty safe to say that Arizona has joined NM, NV, and CA as a permanent demographically flipped state. Say good bye to those Senate seats and electoral votes for good. Texas will go that route in 2024 or 2028 at the latest.

[Hannibal]

I don't see any way he wins Wisconsin or Michigan and, as you said, that's the ballgame.

PDJT is going to win NC. I think he'll still win Georgia. I haven't a clue about Pennsylvania.

It's going to be razor thin. It might even be closer than 2016.

NV and WI might be in play unless they are just counting mail-ins. In which case, the networks should just call the race today.

[iam416]

Arizona flipping probably has as much to do with the massive growth of Phoenix, the Maricopia County suburbs and PDJT's general drop in numbers in the suburbs. If you think NYC policies are going to play well in Arizona, you're fucking insane. I think it's way more like Georgia (and Atlanta) than some sort of Latino take over. I guess that's still technically demographics, though, but certainly not what you're referring to.

Meh. Whatever. We disagree to the Nth degree on this.

[Cody_Russell]

I don't see any way he wins Wisconsin or Michigan and, as you said, that's the ballgame.

PDJT is going to win NC. I think he'll still win Georgia. I haven't a clue about Pennsylvania.

It's going to be razor thin. It might even be closer than 2016.

What about Nevada?
Does anyone have information if the remaining ballot would lean Rs (like Ohio, Florida, and NC late in the process) or lean Ds (like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania late in the process)?

It's hard to tell because late vote drastically changed in those states mentioned.

[Jeff Buchanan]

The predominant election narrative of the national media is laughable in it's dismissiveness that the American electorate is more closely aligned with Trump's version of it than what the left wrongly would like it to be. There will be some good opinion pieces and editorials on this circumstance in the coming weeks.

Speaking of that, I read an interview of Neil Howe who, with William Strauss, developed the The Strauss–Howe generational theory, also known as the Fourth Turning theory or simply the Fourth Turning. I've not read the book on it published in 1996 but it's gotten a lot press lately. Observers seem to believe what is going on now globally and as reflected in the US is a "crisis" period from which an "awakening" will develop. The crisis can be highly turbulent involving wars and large scale disruptions of what had established itself as normal human routine (The Pandemic). The authors over-lay these periods with the typically described generations. Right now there is tension between the Boomers view of the world and that of Millennials ....... that generation being the archetype to lead us out of the crisis.

We're in the mid-to-late stages of an 80-90y Fourth Turning according to Howe and in the crisis stage of it. While Howe is generally an optimist with regards to outcomes and in his interview he listed the scenarios he anticipates unfolding in the future he also says this regarding the worst outcomes and I think this is where we're headed in the short term:

The most pessimistic future I can imagine is for the trends of the last 30 years to continue. America grinds on hopelessly, able to enact only inadequate patchwork reforms. There is no renewal. There is no change. Younger generations get permanently disinherited. The only ones who succeed are those with rich families. Our civic culture atrophies completely, and we turn into a barbed-wire society of haves and have-nots.

It’s hard to imagine this changing without a sudden and discontinuous change in our civic institutions. Fortunately, such eras of public rebirth have happened before. Instead of hoping it doesn’t happen, let’s hope it turns out well.

The interview is below:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/enormous-change-in-the-us-a-potential-secession-crisis-in-red-states-and-the-possibility-of-solving-intractable-problems-will-mark-the-2020s-says-author-neil-howe-2020-11-03

[iam416]

California apparently rejected a Constitutional Amendment specifically endorsing racism. The nutjobs in that state were trying to undo California laws that prohibit Universities (and others state entities) from considering race.

My guess is Asian-Americans weren't too keen on this bullshit.

If Rs want to treat "brown people" as a giant monolith then that's their problem. It plays directly into the Ds "keep them all on the plantation" strategy. But, "brown people" and their interests vary widely. There are plenty of paths to winning considerable portions of that vote with modest efforts. They tend to be religious. They tend to be socially conservative. A significant number of them played by the rules to get here.

But, if you want to talk about "brown people" as a giant ass monolith then you're fucked.