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  • House Control
    Dems (1945-47) 2
    Reps (1947-49) 2
    Dems (1949-53) 4
    Reps (1953-55) 2
    Dems (1955-95) 40
    Reps (1995-07) 12
    Dems (2007-11) 4
    Reps (2011-present) 6

    Senate Control
    Dems (1945-47) 2
    Reps (1947-49) 2
    Dems (1949-53) 4
    Reps (1953-55) 2
    Dems (1955-81) 26
    Reps (1981-87) 6
    Dems (1987-95) 8
    Reps (1995-07) 12
    Dems (2007-15) 8
    Reps (2015-present) 2

    So Dems have controlled the House for 50 years since WWII and the R's just 22 years...but only 4 out of the past 22 years

    Dems have controlled the Senate for 48 years out of 72 years...only 8 out of the last 22

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    • The current political parties don't remotely resemble themselves from 50 years ago.

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      • The current Republicans resemble Goldwater's Republican Party and the current Democrats resemble (mostly) Nixon's Republican Party.

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        • The first day seemed like a week and the second day seemed like five days and the third day seemed like a week again and the fourth day seemed like eight days...

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          • Originally posted by entropy View Post
            What doesn't happen without insurance is preventative care... or what I consider the "health" part of Healthcare. That is the problem, not being turned away from the ER.
            Careful...now you're talking about infringing on people's freedum, ya Commie sumbitch.

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            • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
              House Control
              Dems (1945-47) 2
              Reps (1947-49) 2
              Dems (1949-53) 4
              Reps (1953-55) 2
              Dems (1955-95) 40
              Reps (1995-07) 12
              Dems (2007-11) 4
              Reps (2011-present) 6

              Senate Control
              Dems (1945-47) 2
              Reps (1947-49) 2
              Dems (1949-53) 4
              Reps (1953-55) 2
              Dems (1955-81) 26
              Reps (1981-87) 6
              Dems (1987-95) 8
              Reps (1995-07) 12
              Dems (2007-15) 8
              Reps (2015-present) 2

              So Dems have controlled the House for 50 years since WWII and the R's just 22 years...but only 4 out of the past 22 years

              Dems have controlled the Senate for 48 years out of 72 years...only 8 out of the last 22
              So maybe what Trump really means is "Make Congress Democratic Again".

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                Originally posted by Wild Hoss View Post
                Careful...now you're talking about infringing on people's freedum, ya Commie sumbitch.


                Heh... At some point incentives need to be in place for people to want to be involved in their health instead of waiting for pills to solve their problem. Just my general philosophy around our health care system. We are along for the ride instead of driving.
                Last edited by entropy; March 31, 2016, 11:02 PM.
                Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                • I've seen you drive...we are all safer if you're along for the ride.

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                  • heh... I do drive like I still live in Detroit.
                    Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                    • Originally posted by entropy View Post
                      Heh... At some point incentives need to be in place for people to want to be involved in their health instead of waiting for pills to solve their problem. Just my general philosophy around our health care system. We are along for the ride instead of driving.
                      Merck, Pfizer et al wouldn't want it that way, so IMO that's unlikely. That's why pills cost so much in the first place. It's not their actual cost -- it's that the drug companies can buy favorable policy from Congress.

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                      • Hannibal said:

                        He can still win, but the window is closing very fast. It may already be closed. ... Trump isn't a perfect Conservative but he offers Conservatives a way to prosper in an era where Political Correctness has run amok, small government Libertarianism is pretty much a non-starter, and the demographics aren't what they used to be. Stopping illegal immigration and punishing countries who cheat on trade deals is very much "common ground" territory for winning people over to the Republican party. "Path to citizenship" will ensure that the Republicans never have control of the House or the Presidency again. A Trump loss will be seen as proof that if you fight Political Correctness you will lose, so you might as well not even try.
                        Well said. Trump's appeal is mostly based on (1) a negative reaction to political correctness, (2) unequal trade deals, (3) fear of an extraordinary influx of illegal immigrants, (4) high taxes, going higher.

                        The labor report today again showed that the percentage of white, male, laborers working (as a percentage of that population) is the lowest in the history of the US, and continuing to drop. It is little wonder that that demographic has reached out to an extreme politician.

                        These are the perfect conditions for the birth of a new political party. Demography is Destiny.

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                        • hack.. doesn't mean we should accept it or keep voting in people who agree with it...

                          Put it this way.. today Healthcare revenue is organized around what the doctors do instead of what the patient needs. Fundamentally, a supply driven model is the problem. Need to change the model to patient outcomes. Simple to say, I know.. but that should be the goal.
                          Last edited by entropy; April 1, 2016, 10:49 AM.
                          Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                          • Geezer.. any link to that report?
                            Grammar... The difference between feeling your nuts and feeling you're nuts.

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                            • Originally posted by Da Geezer View Post
                              Hannibal said:



                              Well said. Trump's appeal is mostly based on (1) a negative reaction to political correctness, (2) unequal trade deals, (3) fear of an extraordinary influx of illegal immigrants, (4) high taxes, going higher.

                              The labor report today again showed that the percentage of white, male, laborers working (as a percentage of that population) is the lowest in the history of the US, and continuing to drop. It is little wonder that that demographic has reached out to an extreme politician.

                              These are the perfect conditions for the birth of a new political party. Demography is Destiny.
                              I'm not eager to see a party born out of white working class anger and which seeks to reduce the number of non-whites in the country...

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                              • Geezer, uninsured people showing up to the ER and having that cost spread out amongst the insured was/is part of the problem. It's not a solution.
                                You are correct. Mike. Sick folks showing up at an ER for a strep throat does drive prices higher, no question. That is a logistics question, and has been dealt with in my (very poor) county by opening health delivery centers staffed by PAs and RNs. I don't want to defend the health insurance delivery system pre-ACA. I'm just trying to state that the underlying justification of the ACA, to give basic health insurance to the uninsured, was not nearly the problem it was portrayed to be. Care was always available to the poorest among us and to any illegal person too. The expense of the ACA, and the lies told in order to get enough votes to pass the ACA, was/is far out of proportion to any good done.

                                Had the "Cadillac Tax" remained in the ACA, citizens with extraordinary health coverage would be looking at around $ 5,000/year in extra income tax. The number of people involved was over 100 million, including almost all governmentally paid public sector workers. That alone would have killed the ACA. That Cadillac Tax was quintessential rationing. But Harry Reid said the ACA was just a way-station on the way to government health care, and those of us who opposed the Act believed him. To think that the ACA would in any way negatively affect the public sector was always nonsense.

                                I can never understand why people willingly give up freedoms that are unique in the world. We are moving at a breakneck pace toward becoming France without considering the cost. The only real bump in the road that I can see is going to be when the Federal Government confiscates firearms. Other than national health care, that is the other major plank of the statist agenda. And it will happen before 2020.

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