Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[lineygoblue]

Here's an event that will be swept under the rug today.

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The first civilian commercial flight by Israeli airline EL AL on the ground in The United Arab Emirates.

The UAE official is preparing to greet dignitaries on the flight from Israel, UAE and the USA.

I imagine CNN and MNSBC will accuse Trump of pandering to the Arab world with overtures of a sham peace deal that isolates the "palestinians".

[Dr. Strangelove]

I completely missed this: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...econd-n1238796

In Minneapolis, police pursued a man suspected of homicide. The alleged felon eventually shot himself. The police circulated video of the event within 90 minutes. Nonetheless, rioters and looters still went out and did their thing. I'm sorry -- peaceful protestors still went out and did their thing.

Meanwhile, Presidential betting odds are down to 50-48. Maybe Biden can run the clock out and win. I think that's very likely. But, I think that strategy is made harder with the non-stop peaceful protests.

But, at least the Ds and their Media allies already have an excuse in the place if the unthinkable happens -- THE MAIL!

Trump's chances of winning are obviously better than zero and continued rioting possibly helps him. Although, like I said before, if it seems like the country is descending into chaos on your watch, how's that a solid argument for a second term?

I really just wanted to comment on the betting market predictions -- they're frequently very wrong.

On Feb 23, right before the South Carolina primary, RCP's Betting Markets average gave Bernie a 57% chance of winning the nomination. Sleepy Joe had just a 9% chance of winning. Guess I knew a lot better than 90% of the degenerate gamblers out there.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/

Election Day 2016 the Gamblers gave Hillary an 88% chance to win

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2016_president/

[Mike]

Statement from the law firm representing Kyle Rittenhouse and remarks from lead attorney John M. Pierce. Note the bolded text regarding the weapon. Sounds like even the misdemeanor weapons charge could be in jeopardy.

Pierce Bainbridge is honored to represent 17-year old Antioch, Illinois resident Kyle Rittenhouse, who has suddenly found himself at the center of a national firestorm and charged with murder after defending himself from a relentless, vicious and potentially deadly mob attack in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

On August 25th, 2020, Kenosha spiraled into chaos following the Jacob Blake shooting. The Kenosha Mayor and Wisconsin Governor failed to provide a basic degree of law and order to protect the citizens and community buildings in Kenosha. The city burned as mobs destroyed buildings and property, and looters stole whatever they wanted. Rioters defaced storefronts, the courthouse, and many other public and private locations across the city.

After Kyle finished his work that day as a community lifeguard in Kenosha, he wanted to help clean up some of the damage, so he and a friend went to the local public high school to remove graffiti by rioters. Later in the day, they received information about a call for help from a local business owner, whose downtown Kenosha auto dealership was largely destroyed by mob violence. The business owner needed help to protect what he had left of his life’s work, including two nearby mechanic’s shops. Kyle and a friend armed themselves with rifles due to the deadly violence gripping Kenosha and many other American cities, and headed to the business premises. The weapons were in Wisconsin and never crossed state lines.

Upon arrival, Kyle and others stood guard at the mechanic’s shop across from the auto dealership to prevent further damage or destruction. Later that night, substantially after the city’s 8:00 p.m. curfew expired without consequence, the police finally started to attempt to disperse a group of rioters. In doing so, they maneuvered a mass of individuals down the street towards the auto shops. Kyle and others on the premises were verbally threatened and taunted multiple times as the rioters passed by, but Kyle never reacted. His intent was not to incite violence, but simply to deter property damage and use his training to provide first aid to injured community members.

After the crowd passed the premises and Kyle believed the threat of further destruction had passed, he became increasingly concerned with the injured protestors and bystanders congregating at a nearby gas station with no immediate access to medical assistance or help from law enforcement. Kyle headed in that direction with a first aid kit. He sought out injured persons, rendered aid, and tried to guide people to others who could assist to the extent he could do so amid the chaos. By the final time Kyle returned to the gas station and confirmed there were no more injured individuals who needed assistance, police had advanced their formation and blocked what would have been his path back to the mechanic’s shop. Kyle then complied with the police instructions not to go back there. Kyle returned to the gas station until he learned of a need to help protect the second mechanic’s shop further down the street where property destruction was imminent with no police were nearby.

As Kyle proceeded towards the second mechanic’s shop, he was accosted by multiple rioters who recognized that he had been attempting to protect a business the mob wanted to destroy. This outraged the rioters and created a mob now determined to hurt Kyle. They began chasing him down. Kyle attempted to get away, but he could not do so quickly enough. Upon the sound of a gunshot behind him, Kyle turned and was immediately faced with an attacker lunging towards him and reaching for his rifle. He reacted instantaneously and justifiably with his weapon to protect himself, firing and striking the attacker.

Kyle stopped to ensure care for the wounded attacker but faced a growing mob gesturing towards him. He realized he needed to flee for his safety and his survival. Another attacker struck Kyle from behind as he fled down the street. Kyle turned as the mob pressed in on him and he fell to the ground. One attacker kicked Kyle on the ground while he was on the ground. Yet another bashed him over the head with a skateboard. Several rioters tried to disarm Kyle. In fear for his life and concerned the crowd would either continue to shoot at him or even use his own weapon against him, Kyle had no choice but to fire multiple rounds towards his immediate attackers, striking two, including one armed attacker. The rest of the mob began to disperse upon hearing the additional gunshots.

Kyle got up and continued down the street in the direction of police with his hands in the air. He attempted to contact multiple police officers, but they were more concerned with the wounded attackers. The police did not take Kyle into custody at that time, but instead they indicated he should keep moving. He fully cooperated, both then and later that night when he turned himself in to the police in his hometown, Antioch, Illinois.

Kyle did nothing wrong. He exercised his God-given, Constitutional, common law and statutory law right to self-defense.

However, in a reactionary rush to appease the divisive, destructive forces currently roiling this country, prosecutors in Kenosha did not engage in any meaningful analysis of the facts, or any in-depth review of available video footage (some of which shows that a critical state’s witness was not even at the area where the shots were fired); this was not a serious investigation. Rather, after learning Kyle may have had conservative political viewpoints, they immediately saw him as a convenient target who they could use as a scapegoat to distract from the Jacob Blake shooting and the government’s abject failure to ensure basic law and order to citizens. Within 24-36 hours, he was charged with multiple homicide counts.

Kyle now has the best legal representation in the country. With help from Nicholas Sandmann attorney L. Lin Wood, Pierce Bainbridge and multiple top-tier criminal defense lawyers in Wisconsin immediately offered representation to Kyle.

Today, his legal team was successful in working with the public defender to obtain a several-week continuance of his extradition hearing to September 25th. This at least partially slows down the rush to judgment by a government and media that is determined to assassinate his character and destroy his life.

Kyle, his family, the team at Pierce Bainbridge and his other lawyers intend to fight these charges every step of the way, take the case to trial and win an acquittal on the grounds of self-defense before a jury of his peers.

The legal fees and other costs of Kyle’s defense will be provided through donations to #FightBack Foundation Inc., a Texas 501(c)(4) foundation created by John Pierce and Lin Wood to protect lawabiding American citizens whose rights are being trampled on by state and local governments that are more concerned with appeasing mobs than protecting those rights.

Pierce Bainbridge founder John Pierce praised Kyle’s strength and resilience. “A 17-year old child should not have to take up arms in America to protect life and property. That is the job of state and local governments. However, those governments have failed, and law-abiding citizens have no choice but to protect their own communities as their forefathers did at Lexington and Concord in 1775. Kyle is not a racist or a white supremacist. He is a brave, patriotic, compassionate law-abiding American who loves his country and his community. He did nothing wrong. He defended himself, which is a fundamental right of all Americans given by God and protected by law. He is now in the crosshairs of institutional forces that are much more powerful than him. But he will stand up to them and fight not only for himself, but for all Americans and their beloved Constitution. We will never leave his side until he is victorious in that fight.”

[CGVT]

Lookie here. We have a new pivot man

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[Mike]

Well the videos are plainly obvious. He’s running away from people chasing him. People who clearly had bad intentions. People as it turns out have violent pasts.

What I’m less certain of is how many times you’re expected to let someone stomp on your head and beat you with a blunt object before you can defend yourself. I guess we’ll find out.

[lineygoblue]

Yeah, Mike's introduction of THE TRUTH is a "circle jerk"....

And you wonder why people vote for Trump.

[CGVT]

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[Dr. Strangelove]

There's a lot of undecided/third party in this poll, and it was taken a month ago, but active-duty military prefer Biden over Trump 43-37. In October 2016 Trump was leading this poll over Hillary by 20 points.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/08/31/as-trumps-popularity-slips-in-latest-military-times-poll-more-troops-say-theyll-vote-for-biden/

[Mike]

CGVT, if it makes you feel better, I detest Trump and don’t plan on voting for him. Although I’m actually beginning to consider it as a push back on this leftist nonsense. I’m hoping that Biden will make a principled stand. Those of us who voted for him in the D primary did so to keep the far left loons at bay.

[AlabamAlum]

Speaking of Covid research, a Yale epidemiologist (Risch) has done a meta analysis review of the literature and has determined that HCQ IS effective and that the (few) studies that have suggested that it isn’t effective have been flawed and the abundance of research supports it as effective. He makes a persuasive argument if you listen to him.

That's really not my story, though. He has caused such an uproar with others that many have called for his job as opposed to, you know, refute his assertions.

My shock is that so many people are mad that the Dean of Public Health at Yale had to put out a statement saying (essentially) drop the pitchforks. That’s not how research works. You think that someone is full of shit, you prove it. This ain’t religion.

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/26290/

It’s really quite shocking.

[iam416]

Although, like I said before, if it seems like the country is descending into chaos on your watch, how's that a solid argument for a second term?

That's a fair point IF the chaos is universal. Here it's clearly coming from one fucking side and EVERYONE can see that. So, I'm not so sure people are going to blame PDJT for the actions of your boys in BLM and Antifa. PDJT ate a ton of shit for Charlottesville because his comments weren't as direct as they should have been AND there was the sense that it was the fault of the RIGHT.

Absolutely no one living outside the bubble thinks any of the rioti...err....peacful protesting is the fault of the RIGHT. People know which side openly supports the fuckwads that are peacefully protesting.

So, it could go the way you suggest. The Left foments chaos and blames PDJT for the Left's actions. Or, it could be that some voters are turned off by the chaos the Left is fomenting.

And good points re betting markets.

[iam416]

My shock is that so many people are mad that the Dean of Public Health at Yale had to put out a statement saying (essentially) drop the pitchforks. That’s not how research works. You think that someone is full of shit, you prove it. This ain’t religion.

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/26290/

It’s really quite shocking.

If you're shocked by this then you really haven't been paying attention. Or maybe you have and you just couldn't bring yourself to believe it.

But this is where we are. I'll reiterate an analogous point -- those on the left and their STEM is racist bullshit. We're at a point in time where the conclusion or finding the "truth" only if it fits the requisite narrative. Everything is turning into critical studies.

[CGVT]

Anecdotal FWIW COVID shit.

My daughter had her second negative COVID test and will should be out of quarantine Wednesday. It appears that NYU is doing/has done a pretty good job of getting the students back without incident. They quarantined all students from "hot" states for 14 days and plan to be very strict in enforcing their mitigation measures. She is, however, down to one in-person class, the rest are now on line. She is glad to be out of Lower Alabama and back in NYC. Hopefully they will be able to go back to all in-person classes next semester.

My son's high school that made national news along with Fairhope HS for not wearing masks or social distancing sends out a daily COVID update. They have about 1200 students 9-12 and have had 20 cases since the start of the school year on the 12th of August. They are averaging a couple each day now. There have been no kids seriously ill that I am aware of.

Take from this what you will

[Tom W]

I take that as a low severity and high probability of detection.. The risk is certainly not what we are being lead to believe.

It's one thing to err on the side of caution to maximize safety. But if it comes at the expense of increasing other risks, then you had better weigh your options carefully.

If you are purposely misleading the public, and present a false narrative, then all of your credibility is shot. You can't even pass off the existence of gravity without being called into question.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Speaking of Covid research, a Yale epidemiologist (Risch) has done a meta analysis review of the literature and has determined that HCQ IS effective and that the (few) studies that have suggested that it isn’t effective have been flawed and the abundance of research supports it as effective. He makes a persuasive argument if you listen to him.

That's really not my story, though. He has caused such an uproar with others that many have called for his job as opposed to, you know, refute his assertions.

My shock is that so many people are mad that the Dean of Public Health at Yale had to put out a statement saying (essentially) drop the pitchforks. That’s not how research works. You think that someone is full of shit, you prove it. This ain’t religion.

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/26290/

It’s really quite shocking.

I'm not qualified to say who is doing better "science" here but here's a rebuttal to Risch's review (which was actually published way back in May). Risch actually wrote his piece before the FDA revoked its approval for the emergency use of hydroxy. This rebuttal appears to have just published by the same journal.

https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa189/5898696