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  • lol, thanks, Jeff.
    "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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    • "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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      • We just don't know the mortality. 500,000 out of 1B isn't enough to shutter anything. 50M out of 1B is.
        Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
        Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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        • China, as of now, has less than 90,000 reported cases. If this thing is as virulent as it is supposed to be, they should have three hundred million cases by now. The world should have over a billion.

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          • I don't believe the Chinese stats are accurate. But, in any event, they imposed a tyrannical top-down state shutdown -- several weeks too late, but still. We're following the EU -- slightly behind. Our cases are going to follow that arc, most likely.
            Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
            Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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            • Originally posted by Hannibal View Post
              China, as of now, has less than 90,000 reported cases. If this thing is as virulent as it is supposed to be, they should have three hundred million cases by now. The world should have over a billion.
              Yeah but you can't say we're overreacting and then point to China as an example of it not being that bad. China imposed draconian measures that went way beyond what some are calling 'overreaction' here. If you trust their numbers in the first place.

              And the economic data that came out from China overnight shows just how much damage to their own economy they were willing to cause just to stop the spread of this thing. China's economy is shrinking for the first time since 1989. And the horrible numbers were probably even fluffed up a little bit by the Commies.

              https://qz.com/1818960/china-economy...on-since-1989/

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              • The upward curve for the US is about 33% percent per day or doubling every 2.5 days (approximately). That's about what Spain, Germany and France are on. Italy is down to about 20-25% (doubling about every 4th day). By the end of Friday we are likely to be around 15,000 cases.
                Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                • Even if you had unlimited testing with 4 hour turnaround times you are not going to get accurate rates on who has the virus. They are only testing people with symptoms, the huge numbers in these forecasts include the vast majority of people who do not have symptoms and wouldn't be tested.

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                  • Originally posted by iam416 View Post
                    We just don't know the mortality. 500,000 out of 1B isn't enough to shutter anything. 50M out of 1B is.
                    "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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                    • "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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                      • Markets having a swell day

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                        • "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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                          • HHS came under a cyber-attack last night. Wow. And there's a connection to the false rumors being spread of a national quarantine.

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                            • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post

                              Yeah but you can't say we're overreacting and then point to China as an example of it not being that bad. China imposed draconian measures that went way beyond what some are calling 'overreaction' here. If you trust their numbers in the first place.

                              And the economic data that came out from China overnight shows just how much damage to their own economy they were willing to cause just to stop the spread of this thing. China's economy is shrinking for the first time since 1989. And the horrible numbers were probably even fluffed up a little bit by the Commies.

                              https://qz.com/1818960/china-economy...on-since-1989/
                              They didn't implement their measures for weeks, after the virus had a month to spread, completely unabated, all over the country. It's a country with massive cities consisting of people packed together like sardines. If it's so easy to pick up the virus by entering the same room as somebody who coughed it up four hours after the fact, then China should have literally hundreds of millions of cases by now. They should have had that many back in January. If the cases are being wildly underdiagosed or underreported, then that means that the fatality rate is wildly overreported.

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                              • I'm not sure the raw stats (e.g., total cases, total deaths) are of much use at all to the public other than to make them take this seriously. It's the analytics by the number crunchers that are important. The variance in testing strategies, triage protocols (getting the sickest the care they need and reducing case fatality rate) and methods of reporting that confound the raw data.

                                I'm not a stat guy but I know the power of good analytics and it's out there if not a bit slower than I wold like to be reading it.

                                I'll mention this again about the MedScape article I read, What Can We Learn from Italy's Experience, because it's more about the credible job Italian health authorities did to adapt a dysfunctional, Italian national health care system quickly to address problems that appear to have been very quickly identified. It was the docs with boots on the ground and regional and national health officials that they were feeding info to so they could implement policy changes that did this. Instead of the typical incompetence we probably unfairly attach to Italians, they looked pretty good facing the circumstances they did if the article is accurate and I have no doubt that it is. Very balanced; meant for medical professional consumption.

                                My take is that the US is ahead of the game because of things learned from the experience of other countries ..... that is if what is being talked about actually plays out in practice! Google IS developing a national web site dedicated to COVID-19 education, prevention and local resources nation wide. Early claims that Google executives didn't know anything about Trump's announcement on Friday were false. Site will go operational late today per reports from Alphabet, Google's owner https://blog.google/inside-google/co...nuing-to-help/

                                All I have to go by right now is what's going on down here in S Florida. It's impressive. From local news (because I'm complying with guidance to stay home' Iv'e not ventured out in the last 36h) residents are also complying with official guidance.

                                Moreover, restaurants and bars in Broward and Miami Dade are directed to be on reduced hours among other steps they must take to keep their doors open at all. Some are shuttering walk-in offerings and getting innovative on drive through or free food delivery. Police are out and about apparently enforcing to some degree the guidance (shaming may be the best term if a bar is open past 10pm). The FL National Guard is in town and is expected to receive training on testing administration and triage for test takers. Guidance on who should or should not present to testing centers beginning to pop up is both on TV and available if you are internet active - and not everyone is either due to lack of knowledge or no WIFI service.

                                Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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