Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Dr. Strangelove]

Supreme Court will let a 9th Circuit decision stand which said the homeless have a constitutional right to sleep on public property when no alternative shelter is available to them.

https://apnews.com/e4962aaaa84919289888c54d36faeb48

[iam416]

Also, the State of NY lost its preposterous lawsuit against Exxon. https://nypost.com/2019/12/10/exxonm...rom-investors/

[Hannibal]

Fox poll shows Trump approval up to 45% but support for impeachment is at 50%

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox...achment-steady

I call bullshit on just about every impeachment poll. Unlike legit elections, there will never be an official count by which these pollsters can be measured, so they can print literally anything they want without jeopardizing their reputations. But based on how the "moderate" Democrats in swing districts are wavering, it looks like those people don't perceive impeachment as being a "win" issue.

With that said, support does seem to be shifting in those polls away from impeachment. Apparently having three Far Left Wing, loony, kook professors come in as expert witnesses and offer genius insight about how The Constitution doesn't make Donald Trump a king was not a very convincing move.

[Hannibal]

Also, the State of NY lost its preposterous lawsuit against Exxon. https://nypost.com/2019/12/10/exxonm...rom-investors/

[Jeff Buchanan]

I think Allen Dershowitz is a political hack but this is a well argued position that the 2nd article of impeachment represents Congressional over-reach. Dershowitz also argues that ....



The first point he makes is solid, the second is why I think he's a dork.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/474710-supreme-court-ruling-pulls-rug-out-from-under-article-of-impeachment

[Dr. Strangelove]

I call bullshit on just about every impeachment poll. Unlike legit elections, there will never be an official count by which these pollsters can be measured, so they can print literally anything they want without jeopardizing their reputations. But based on how the "moderate" Democrats in swing districts are wavering, it looks like those people don't perceive impeachment as being a "win" issue.

With that said, support does seem to be shifting in those polls away from impeachment. Apparently having three Far Left Wing, loony, kook professors come in as expert witnesses and offer genius insight about how The Constitution doesn't make Donald Trump a king was not a very convincing move.

Funny, there's been bunch of swing district Dems that have gone on the record as of today in favor of Impeachment.

They are seeing what happened to Van Drew. He got internal polling back that showed his anti-impeachment position was so unpopular among the base that he was likely to be primaried and likely to lose if he remained a Dem. So he's switched parties. None of the other swing district Dems seem interested in doing that.

But we'll see...so far though it seems like the number of Dems voting no is going to be pretty small. Abigail Spanberger (VA), Gil Cisneros (CA), Ben McAdams (UT), Elissa Slotkin (MI), and TJ Cox (CA) all announced just today they will vote to impeach. Colin Peterson is another one that some think might vote no but he's also near retirement age and may think about not even running so...who knows.

[iam416]

The 538 aggregate is still 47/47 roughly.

[Dr. Strangelove]

And of course, a healthy chunk of the people who are anti-impeachment do not think Trump behaved perfectly here. It just might not rise to the level of impeachment for them.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Also, forgot Joe Cunningham (SC), who represents Charleston. He announced he's pro-impeach today

[Hannibal]

Fair enough. It seems like the red district Dems may have played a role in toning down the articles to more generic-sounding infractions.

"Obstruction of Congress" is pure nonsense though. "Abuse of Power" -- eh.

[lineygoblue]

And of course, a healthy chunk of the people who are anti-impeachment do not think Trump behaved perfectly here. It just might not rise to the level of impeachment for them.

I always got a chuckle from those who said the Clinton matter "didn't rise" to the level of impeachment, because it was "only about sex".

They have little blue pills for that nowadays ... they work great ...or, so I'm told, that is ...

[Dr. Strangelove]

Interesting article. A whistleblower inside the Mormon Church filed a complaint with the IRS alleging the Church has amassed over $100 Billion in a fund that, though tax exempt, apparently (he claims) performs no charitable work.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/mormon-church-has-misled-members-on-100-billion-tax-exempt-investment-fund-whistleblower-alleges/2019/12/16/e3619bd2-2004-11ea-86f3-3b5019d451db_story.html

[iam416]

Have you posted about all the other polls on impeachment that came out today?

[Dr. Strangelove]

Have you posted about all the other polls on impeachment that came out today?

Here's the 538 average so you can see for yourself

Impeaching Trump remains significantly more popular than impeaching Clinton was at any point.

And several more 'endangered" freshman Dems came out in favor. There's still virtually no Dem on the record as promising to vote No

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/impeachment-polls/

[Dr. Strangelove]

Giuliani is openly admitting he told Trump on multiple occasions that Ambassador Yovanovitch was impeding investigations that would be politically useful for him.

Hw went on Laura Ingraham and openly boasted about being the one to get her dismissed.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/us/politics/giuliani-yovanovitch-ukraine.html