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  • Originally posted by crashcourse View Post
    well maybe if we get a full impeachment nquiry some fact can come out
    since trump's team can call there own witnesses

    always wondered why if ukraines has the poorest economy in Europe

    somehow they were the top donors to the Clinton foundation at 10 million--and that's world wide leader by nationality of donors

    gee the most corrupt country in Europe fattening the wallets of the Clintons and the bidens



    bring oin impeachment lets have a open hearing see who really profited from Ukraine politics
    If the Republican Party really wants to use its time to go on lengthy Alex Jones style rants about chemtrails, George Soros, Clinton Foundation, Uranium 1, Benghazi, and Pizzagate, instead of contesting what Trump did, that'd be fine with me.

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    • Crash, we aren't talking about the Clintons or the Bidens, we're talking about Trump. Stay on point. It's not that hard.


      The only relevant question is, did Trump's action rise to the level of impeachable offense?
      “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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      • that is your point not my point

        I'm not arguing whether trumps should be impeached I hope he is--bring all the facts out

        and the fact of that phone call was theres a lot of corruption in the Ukraine

        trump and zelensky discussed it

        the money trail shows what a democratic piggybank it was when you look at bidens/Clintons and others during that time

        but your advice to trump is to ignore it?

        that he has no business in investigating corruption in regards to our governement and money received from foreign governments?

        impeach him--lets see what comes out

        let these "whistleblowers" quit this mindless game of being allowed to say whatever they want to say without impunity.

        you plan on bringing down a president at least give him the right to defend against his accuser


        Last edited by crashcourse; October 8, 2019, 12:27 PM.

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        • Didn't he confirm the whistleblower report with the release of the summary of the call? Basically what crash wants is no whistle blowers so Trump can be as corrupt as possible.

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            • Trump has no business using his position as President to withhold Congressional approved aid intended for defending a nation from a country that has invaded/annexed in exchange for assisting in a personal vendetta against a political opponent. Demanding a bribe or committing extortion is not acceptable.

              “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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              • demanding a bribe or committing extortion

                show me where trump mentioned a word about that

                that transcript doesn't say anything except for looking into the origins of the Russian investigation after mullers disaster and wtf was biden kid landing lucrative money followed by his dad bragging about getting the pprosecuter of his kid fired

                nothing to see here

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                • Read the text messages of his diplomatic lackeys and the transcript of the call. "Nothing to see" is being willfully blind.
                  “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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                  • Asking a foreign country to investigate a political rival is impeachable period. It's corrupt and a clown like crash course would be crying to high heaven if a Democratic president did something similar. It is corrupt as fuck. Crash course is a foot soldier in the Trump army so it's to be expected as evidenced by the Seth Rich BS.
                    Last edited by froot loops; October 8, 2019, 05:58 PM.

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                    • Will be lots of commentary of the letter the WH sent to Congress but it's mostly a political document. To the extent it cites any legal theory or the Constitution, it's pretty much nonsense.

                      The President doesn't have the right to determine whether an inquiry is 'legitimate' or not. There's nothing in the Constitution about what a "legitimate" inquiry looks like or in the House rules.The President also doesn't have the "right" to confront and cross-examine witnesses in the investigatory phase of impeachment; that's what the Senate trial is for. It's like saying a defendant has the right to confront witnesses against him before an indictment is even brought.

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                      • BTW, when Republicans say the Democrats are breaking with all precedent by not holding a full house vote immediately...

                        On Oct. 30, 1973, the Judiciary Committee voted on a strict party-line vote to begin an impeachment inquiry into Nixon. A full house vote wasn't held until February 6, 1974

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac..._Richard_Nixon
                        Last edited by Dr. Strangelove; October 8, 2019, 06:24 PM.

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                        • Kremlin-directed operatives opened champagne when Trump won in 2016, according to a communication disclosed in a Senate Intelligence Committee report
                          “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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                          • forgoive me fpor being skeptical

                            but haven't you libs been screaming impeachment since day 2

                            Hasn't every breathless this is it post in the last 3 years met with the ultimate nothing burger

                            but some how this is it moment is the one right?

                            meanwhile Elizabeth warren just inched ahead of biden to be your nominee--whos' being taken down by the latest again?

                            whos reelection committee just set a new record for contributions again?

                            this whole thing reminds me of one thing



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                            • I haven't been screaming for impeachment, since day 2, that's an effing lie. No surprise from the Seth Rich guy. Working with the Russians to steer the election is ridiculous even if you think it is A-OK. For crash course the ends justifies the means, that's why he's OK with his boy Trump going around different countries to ask them to manufacture dirt on opponents.

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