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  • The usual suspects are at it again with strong criticisms of the Trump administration's initiatives with China on trade and NK on Korean Peninsula denuclearization.

    I agree there is a lot of Trump theatrics in these meetings with Xi and Kim. So, what. If it leads to lower level negotiators sitting down and talking about paths to achieve each side's goals, that would be a good thing. Shummer thinks it ridiculous that Trump would associate with Kim on the personal level he does. Again, so what. He's in power, he has control of NK's nuclear program and seems like the logical person to talk to about that program ....... barring some other approach and I haven't heard anything from Shummer on that.

    Sources are reporting today that the Chinese position to resume trade talks and have them go anywhere is that the US has to abandon all it's tariffs. This position apparently in conflict with the US position that some tariffs will remain in place as a means of enforcing Chinese compliance with steps they might agree to to allow the US to achieve it's trade goals.

    There is little detail in the reports I'm reading on China trade. Just broad statements. That's the problem for me. The door has been opened for lower level staff working on these issues to get to work. Hopefully that takes place, behind the scenes, without a lot of public fanfare. I remain aggravated that the press picks up on a particular line coming from someone in China or NK and begins to make a story out of it without considering the lack of facts that probably support that story.

    This sort of thing leads to two problems: (1) misrepresentations or misinterpretations of the meaning of the words, usually, but not always, in the speakers native tongue. (2) such reports have the potential of prompting a tweet storm or an official response from a US administration member that will be interpreted by the Chines or North Koreans as an insult....... we're calling off the meeting of lower level staff.

    So, Trump haters would be well advised to just STFU in this important short term period before principals actually meet to re-start talks.
    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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    • Oh ....... global markets reached new highs and seem to be maintaining some momentum in hopes that central banks, worldwide, will cut interest rates. Sure, there are plenty of signs that there is a slowing of the global economy and a few that a US recession is imminent. But, the global central banks steps intended to reduce the cost of borrowing for large corporations and even small businesses will spur investment and probably some job growth. The economy will percolate a while longer.

      Meanwhile, it's hot and the end days are near if the world does not reduce carbon emissions ...... errh, stop growing their economies, creating jobs and rewarding the risk takers that do just that.
      Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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      • Yeah, no on the STFU. He is dumb as shit.

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        • Heh ..... sure, you can bitch all you want about Donald Trump ..... as long as it's just us'ins here listening. Just don't go start writing for the NYT, WAPO or VOX.
          Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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          • Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

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            • Did kapture include a trigger warning with his Betsy Ross flag post?
              Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
              Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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              • Originally posted by Hannibal View Post
                Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
                It really is FAKE news. The Facebook post that attributed this to Biden got hooked on FB's bot that spots erroneous or misleading information..... in this case that the German's bombed Pearl Harbor, not because the quote was wrongly attributed to Biden. But in a search to try to connect the alleged quote to Joe Biden nothing was found.

                But yeah, Biden can be a gaff machine worse that PDJT but this wasn't an example.

                Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post

                  It really is FAKE news. The Facebook post that attributed this to Biden got hooked on FB's bot that spots erroneous or misleading information..... in this case that the German's bombed Pearl Harbor, not because the quote was wrongly attributed to Biden. But in a search to try to connect the alleged quote to Joe Biden nothing was found.

                  But yeah, Biden can be a gaff machine worse that PDJT but this wasn't an example.

                  https://www.politifact.com/facebook-...-pearl-harbor/

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                  • with GIF
                    "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post
                      Heh ..... sure, you can bitch all you want about Donald Trump ..... as long as it's just us'ins here listening. Just don't go start writing for the NYT, WAPO or VOX.
                      Yeah whatever comrade

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                        • Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                          Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                          • California doding a bullet that these quakes are happening far out in the desert. Last one was stronger than the Northridge quake.

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                            • This is at a casino almost 150 miles south of the epicenter, close to Palm Springs. So you can imagine what it'd be like to be a lot closer.

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                              • Yes, I need a lot of things explained to me these days..... sorry, Hanni.
                                Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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