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  • I'm not sure you have to wait for the report, this seems like evidence that might reveal itself in an indictment. Remember with Cohen in his plea deal and sentencing, Mueller tacked on the lying to Congress charge with the SDNY case. The sentence is to be served concurrently, it was noted at the time that Mueller was laying groundwork for other people he may have been looking to charge with lying to congress but maybe he was laying groundwork for this as well.

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    • Originally posted by crashcourse View Post

      stand corrected

      still want to hear the tape

      there has to be tape right?
      Emails, texts, internal Trump Org documents, etc. Assuming the article is correct, testimony from non-Cohen Trump employees. If it's solely based on statements from Cohen it ain't worth much.

      He has previously encouraged investigators to go after Cohen's father-in-law. Today he brings him up again. This is debatable witness tampering but hey, he's also Muh President

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      • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post

        Emails, texts, internal Trump Org documents, etc. Assuming the article is correct, testimony from non-Cohen Trump employees. If it's solely based on statements from Cohen it ain't worth much.

        He has previously encouraged investigators to go after Cohen's father-in-law. Today he brings him up again. This is debatable witness tampering but hey, he's also Muh President

        Trump doesn't use email so it is not Trump's email they have.

        They are going to need hard evidence that Trump directed Cohen to lie

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        • Ah, back to the "person X in Trump's orbit is now a scum bag"

          No issues when serving him -- absolute sludge when relieved.

          Pretty contra to conventional conservative philosophy: People don't change - shit is always shit.

          These guys were all shit when appointed by the orange root and while serving him. Mueller isn't making it so -- conveniently flipping his service stripes for deep state stripes.

          Wake up.

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          • Originally posted by Kapture1 View Post

            Trump doesn't use email so it is not Trump's email they have.

            They are going to need hard evidence that Trump directed Cohen to lie
            Trump uses email you dimwit -- how you sitting here espousing this tasty folk lore like it is actually true.

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            • Originally posted by millenwasmyfavorite View Post
              Ah, back to the "person X in Trump's orbit is now a scum bag"

              No issues when serving him -- absolute sludge when relieved.

              Pretty contra to conventional conservative philosophy: People don't change - shit is always shit.

              These guys were all shit when appointed by the orange root and while serving him. Mueller isn't making it so -- conveniently flipping his service stripes for deep state stripes.

              Wake up.
              I don't know man, Cohen's face turn means people can change. Maybe Cohen was always an American hero but just under mind control by Donnie Two Scoops.

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              • lol, American Hero

                Do you even listen to yourself?

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                • FWIW one of the two reporters who wrote the Buzzfeed story has gone on the record and explicitly said Cohen was NOT a source for the story. They spoke with two "high level law enforcement officials"

                  So anyone wanting to dismiss it all as the rantings of a doomed man trying to buy freedom through lies should pause a bit.

                  IF the evidence exists, of course.

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                  • Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
                    FWIW one of the two reporters who wrote the Buzzfeed story has gone on the record and explicitly said Cohen was NOT a source for the story. They spoke with two "high level law enforcement officials"

                    So anyone wanting to dismiss it all as the rantings of a doomed man trying to buy freedom through lies should pause a bit.

                    IF the evidence exists, of course.
                    two high level law enforcement officials familiar with the Mueller probe could be Strzok and McCabe lol

                    One of the two reporters who wrote the Buzzfeed story has a history of retractions and corrections, and flat out making shit up.
                    Last edited by Kapture1; January 18, 2019, 11:44 AM.

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                    • Approximately $600bn spent on defence in '18, yet people want to continue to let state secrets waltz out the front door.

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                      • Neither Trump nor anyone at the White House has actually issued a firm denial yet. Just plenty of "Michael Cohen is a liar".

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                        • Credit to the Fox hosts, they repeatedly press Hogan Gidley to go on the record "yes or no" and he refuses three times. Just a lot of "Cohen is a liar" and "I won't dignify the report with a response."

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                          • Giuliani now the first to explicitly deny it.

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                            • If The Nation's Mayor denied it, then call it a day. Nothing to see here.
                              Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                              Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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