Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[Hannibal]

She should find an apartment somewhere in a low rent, high crime district that is representative of a typical inner city neighborhood that votes Democrat.

[Jeff Buchanan]

I don't know if I can articulate this correctly but ....... talent, why do you hate the Dems?

Seriously, there's groups in this forum that to differing degrees, see the electorate as either hard line, really right leaning (not necessarily white nationalists) that is concerned about becoming a socialist state run by brown people looking for handouts or socially liberal folks who see a non-white/impoverished electorate as having legitimate gripes that can be reasonably addressed, and should be, while at the same time preserving the values of the Republic (i.e., these are not mutually exclusive ideals).

Polarization of ideas and beliefs in this forum and probably, in their own ways, mostly attributable to the limits of internet political forums, that polarization is reflective of the overall electorate on a national level. Maybe this is oversimplifying and inappropriately generalizing, IDK.

[Hannibal]

There are many reasons why the electorate is becoming more polarized. One of the biggest ones is that you are seeing a long overdue backlash against an increasingly nutty fringe Left. This is essentially the country's immune system going into effect. Self preservation is taking precedence over civility and decorum. This backlash is the only healthy possible reaction to movements like the utter insanity of promoting transgenderism (i.e. severe mental illness). The concept that a country shouldn't defend its borders and set an immigration policy that is in their best interest is a loony kook fringe idea with no historical precedent. Even mainstream Democrats were opposed to this concept 25 years ago. Now we have Democrats openly calling for the abolition of ICE and the ones that aren't openly calling for it are still working towards that goal. If Bill Clinton ran for President today, Liberals would be drawing Hitler mustaches on him. People who just want to go to work, be left the fuck alone, and live in a Constitutional Republic that respects the rule of law can only be lectured to about racism, male privilege and white privilege so much before they reach a breaking point. You can only watch so many goony Left Wing mobs destroy so much property and commit so much violence before you get sick of it. This is the historical norm. When the kook fringe Left pushes too far, there is a huge backlash (e.g. Weimar Republic followed by Nazi Germany), and we are very close to that point. There is no point in trying to find a middle ground when that middle ground will just be reset tomorrow and you'll be called a "racist" if you are standing there. Another reason that we are divided is that the internet has made a much wider variety of news sources available and that means that The New York Times and CNN no longer control the narrative like they used to. Twenty years ago the false rape allegations against Kavanaugh would have stuck. Thanks in no small part to the internet, we found out that they were false and the Republican Party actually grew a set. Multiculturalism is a disaster too and it creates discord and unrest everywhere and every time that it is tried.

At any rate, people like me learned a long time ago that you can't debate in good faith or reason with somebody who grabs a megaphone and screams "RACIST!" in your face whenever you try and educate them with facts. You get called a right wing extremist nowadays for pointing out that which is self-evident.

[froot loops]

Most people don't talk politics when they talk to each other for good reason. Its less polarized in real life. I work with a lot of immigrants, its fine, I'm better for it.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Trump's DOJ ends investigation into Jane Sanders (Bernie's wife). Will not be charged.

[Kapture1]

The left were the ones that said The Personal is Political, and boy they weren't kidding... nothing is free from politics these days. Shit, not even pumpkins


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[Kapture1]

Fucking white people and their *shuffles cards* healthy diets


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[Kapture1]

goddamn white people and their *closes eyes, spins around 6 times and points* swimming supremacy


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[Kapture1]

crackerass white people and their *rolls hexagonal die* blonde hair


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[Kapture1]

If you understand identity politics, you will understand the reaction of the far right. Fine, if you get to play identity politics, then so do we. Ever wonder how racial division and resentment and hatred can grow in 2018?

This is not a place our country needs to go, both left and right.

[Hannibal]

Gee whiz I can't understand why our country is so divided and why all of those angry white men voted for Trump.

Why can't they just do the right thing, shut the fuck up, keep paying their taxes, and accept getting bashed in the media on a daily basis, blamed for all of the world's problems, and lectured to about how racist they are while they are discriminated against in the workplace and for college admissions?

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[Hannibal]

This is not a place our country needs to go, both left and right.

Too late.

[iam416]

I don't know if I can articulate this correctly but ....... talent, why do you hate the Dems?

[THE_WIZARD_]

I can vouge for Talent...he was a liberal Dem puke until I got him switched to the conservative side in the WX days...I take full credit...or blame...depending on your idiocy...

[Ghengis Jon]

Gee whiz I can't understand why our country is so divided and why all of those angry white men voted for Trump.

Why can't they just do the right thing, shut the fuck up, keep paying their taxes, and accept getting bashed in the media on a daily basis, blamed for all of the world's problems, and lectured to about how racist they are while they are discriminated against in the workplace and for college admissions?

Really? Except around here I generally keep my mouth shut, I've always paid my taxes, have never seen white males as a generality bashed in the media or blamed for all the world's problems, I've never been accused of racism and have never been discriminated in the workplace or when I applied to the greatest university in the world. Of course then again, I'm not angry and don't spout illusionary excuses and grievances for not having the world handed to me on a silver platter. Perhaps if (some) white men didn't gobble down the GOP fueled drivel outlined in your second sentence, they wouldn't be so angry. I think the real question that has to be asked is why have 'hard' conservatives become such hand wringing snowflakes? What drove the GOP from being the party of "work hard, play fair, be honest, and you will change yourself and the world for the better" to "I'm a whiny assed victim, it's never my fault, brutally disparage anyone that does not perfectly align with my ideology, and to be willing to elect an incredibly incompetent buffoon who is detrimental to the nation just to show how mad I am." ? Why is lying now acceptable, intellectual dishonesty admired, and froth mouthed buffoonery required in conservative circles? What happened to setting a good example for others to follow? Why is it now critically important for conservatives to be snowflakes above all?

(Not looking for the standard deflection of "Dems are/did/will do....". I'll gladly rip into them in another conversation.) Why did the GOP change from a noble philosophy to kindergarten level crybabies? Why is fabrication and taking the low road so important?