Yeah, DSL -- it's tough, right. So, if Flynn was meeting with the Russians in October about ISIS, then I don't care.
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Originally posted by froot loops View PostIf none of the activity was illegal then it begs the question why these folks were lying about the contact with the Russians. Kapture might be right that an incoming president and his NSA have a right to undermine the acting administration sanctions, but codify it into law. Remove the Logan Act
Maybe inauguration should happen the next day, but as it is actively trying to undermine the existing administration goes against the tradition of one president at a time. If Kapture is right I fully expect Trump to argue that, but we have to see what Flynn testifies to as he is fully in cooperating with Special Counsel Mueller.
Imagine as a CEO taking over a Fortune 500 company in 73 days. Replacing all the top personnel, developing a 100 day strategy, being ready to hit the ground running and implement changes in strategy on day 1.
Now imagine it's not a Fortune 500 company, but a 4 Trillion a year enterprise in just 73 days time. That is what it is like for an incoming administration. They HAVE to reach out to other countries and lay the groundwork on upcoming changes to strategy and start the process of building a relationship. In my estimation, 73 days isn't enough time.
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Then it should be fairly easy to remove the Logan Act or legislate an amendment to the Logan Act to account for what you are saying. On top of that, the current defense should be to easily identify all of the instances that previous incoming administrations tried to undermine the existing administration sanctions, if it's fairly common it won't be a problem.
Then again if it was fairly common, guys like Sessions, Flynn, Manafort wouldn't have lied about the contacts. If it was OK, they could have shouted from the mountaintops what they did. The existence of the Special Counsel comes directly from the lies.
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Originally posted by iam416 View PostIMO, if you're going to rightfully push for nuance and high-level discussion, then you ought to clarify statements like this. Capitalism is, ultimately, anti-competitive if played to the end. But, for a large portion of any market life it's absolutely pro-competitive. I mean, I can pull definitions from practically everywhere that says that capitalism includes pro-competitive markets.
Saying that capitalism is non-competitive in a blanket fashion is surely the easiest way to get lost in the forest of an argument that doesn't particularly matter to your overall post.
My advice, of course, is worth exactly how much it costs. So, there's that.
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Right, that's not really up for debate. But that doesn't mean capitalist markets aren't pro-competitive for significant portions of their life cycle.
Anyway, see -- here we are lost in the esoteric trees. The upside is that no one other than perhaps Geezer was actually going to discuss your larger point with you, so nothing lost.Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.
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Well I genuinely do think that markets and capitalism are separate things that have been artificially fused together, and that we need to separate them in order to have an intelligent discussion about economics. They do not go hand-in-hand nearly as much as we'd think they might. But you're right about Geezer, and that there's nothing lost.
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Originally posted by froot loops View PostThen it should be fairly easy to remove the Logan Act or legislate an amendment to the Logan Act to account for what you are saying. On top of that, the current defense should be to easily identify all of the instances that previous incoming administrations tried to undermine the existing administration sanctions, if it's fairly common it won't be a problem.
Then again if it was fairly common, guys like Sessions, Flynn, Manafort wouldn't have lied about the contacts. If it was OK, they could have shouted from the mountaintops what they did. The existence of the Special Counsel comes directly from the lies.
Have you seen a copy of the transcripts of Flynn's call with Kislyak? Because I haven't either. What context were the sanctions discussed? I have no idea, the media has never reported it, only speculation.
The FBI did, however, review the transcripts of the phone call and found nothing illicit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.94b62a942083
And this was Comey's FBILast edited by Kapture1; December 1, 2017, 01:58 PM.
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Originally posted by iam416 View PostSLF:
Why do you think democratic socialism leads to fantastic success?To be a professional means that you don't die. - Takeru "the Tsunami" Kobayashi
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