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  • Jonah Goldberg in NRO today

    "Okay, well, it’s sort of a prequel to Liberal Fascism in the sense that I look at where ideological movements come from and why I think Western civilization is in real trouble. I’ve changed my mind about a lot of things over the last couple years. I still stand by LF, but I think intellectual history isn’t just a game of playing connect the dots. Philosophy, ideology, etc. are downstream of human nature, and human nature doesn’t change, which is why the same ideas keep popping up over and over again. We keep reinventing the same ideas with new labels again and again. Sometimes, they get called “right-wing”; sometimes, they get called “left-wing.” But statism is statism, whatever label you stick on it. Collectivism is tribalism whether you call it socialism or nationalism, fascism or Communism. The only really — really — new thing of the last 10,000 years is the miracle of liberal democratic capitalism, and I think we’re losing our commitment to it.

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    • Originally posted by WingsFan View Post
      The Big Boss Man tells Kim Jong Un to knock it off. Good news for Trump and USA - bad news for the Left.

      China tells N. Korea to halt missile, nuclear tests


      http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...les/104357570/
      So, the UN calls for sanctions and China backs it up. How is that bad news for anybody?
      I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on

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      • Originally posted by CGVT View Post
        So, the UN calls for sanctions and China backs it up. How is that bad news for anybody?
        Its not...some are looking for any news that can be spun as good for The Don though. Just pat them on the head on move along.

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        • How is that bad news for anybody?
          Its not CGVT, its good news I see Trump is already celebrating and tweeting about it. And the Left will hate this. Trump is going to start a nuclear war! - How many here said that? This shoots that narrative down.



          N Korea is nothing without China and they better comply.

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          • Its not...some are looking for any news that can be spun as good for The Don though. Just pat them on the head on move along.

            and there you go, bobs your uncle - world peace is you know "nothing to see here" lets get back to the soap opera shit!!

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            • Originally posted by WingsFan View Post
              and there you go, bobs your uncle - world peace is you know "nothing to see here" lets get back to the soap opera shit!!
              You're the one that brought the soap.

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              • Krauthammer manages another moment of clarity in applauding the pushback of process and norms against Trump.

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...db8_story.html

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                • Originally posted by Da Geezer View Post
                  Mueller impanels a second grand jury in DC, which voted 96% for Hillary. Alan Dershowitz merely notes that this is an obvious plan to stack a petit jury if it comes to that, and that Trump would be better off being tried in N. Virginia, site of the original GJ.

                  And as one might expect Maxine goes after Dershowitz as a racist. CGVT, froot, Oracle and Strange would be proud of her logic.

                  http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08...fending-trump/
                  Only a jury composed solely of Trump voters can possibly be fair to the Great Trump

                  Likewise, Geezer no doubt believes that, should Hillary ever go on trial, only Clinton loyalists should be allowed to compose the jury.

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                  • No reason don shouldn't be tried in West Virginia after all.

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                    • Ken Starr said you don't want prosecutors out on a fishing expedition. Maxine and I are flabbergasted.

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                      • When stories like Mueller's grand jury broke, Tucker discussed gypsies defecating on American sidewalks as his lead story. No one works harder to keep the memory of Hillary Clinton alive

                        Maxine and I think that this is the heart of it right there. There may be some sort of attempt to parade out some liberals, but increasingly it's Fox's unwillingness to cover the news of the day that is what's remarkable. It's the sins of omission. Substituting Seth Rich or xenophobia or Hillarywatch is a crime far worse than having Hannity on the air.

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                        • From what we know about Flynn and Manafort and their dealings along with Kushner's lies on his disclosure documents, I don't think anybody has to worry about a fishing expedition. This is more like fishing in a stocked bass pond.

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                          • What's going to be interesting is what happens when it's all over, including the pardons, of which there will probably be far more than is justified. Will there be some sort of truth-and-reconciliation process? Do we get a big reform of WH ethics rules? Is there going to be a legal reform? How far back will we look in the recent history of WH behaviors in order to make things should be illegal actually illegal?

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                            • There will be no 'truth-and-reconciliation' process. Since when has/have/will Trump supporters recognize truth as anything other than what Dear Leader says it is? You are talking about lobotimized, hyper partisan lemmings. If Chump leaves office, in any manner, there are those in the GOP who will be disgusted and silent (thou shalt not besmirch the Party) and those that remain rabid zombies that continue to deny everything Dear Leader tells them to deny. Dems won't help, being too busy with a victory lap and 'I told you so' taunts.

                              Until we can get a viable 3rd party in place, I believe the US has entered into it's "Banana Republic Age". We just need to find Chump a funny looking hat and shiny medals to wear and it will be complete.
                              “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.” - Groucho Marx

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                              • I think you are right. Third party or money, for the most part, out of politics.

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