Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[iam416]

Shockingly un-inept work from Team Husker.

[THE_WIZARD_]

The Big 12 had more teams then than now...

[THE_WIZARD_]

I think Michigan claims a couple national titles from that era too...

[iam416]

I'm fairly certain that antebellum national titles are all that M can claim, at least without controversy. M hasn't really been a national player since German unification.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Harsh...but accurate...

Damn shame liney isn't around to opine...

[THE_WIZARD_]

Next topic TaintedFuck...Oswald...acted alone re The Warren Commission....assisted by the KGB re payback for Bay of Pigs...or an inside US conspiracy?

Discuss.

[CGVT]

[Whitley]

Say what you will about Andy, but his handling of the Nullification Crisis (also "not about slavery") was well-done. States simply can't choose to ignore federal law. I sort of wish we had ol' Andy in office to deal with "sanctuary cities" and such. Heh.

He also ignored SCOTUS ruling in favor of the Cherokee nation.

[iam416]

He also ignored SCOTUS ruling in favor of the Cherokee nation.

He did a lot of things, but I don't believe this is true. I could be wrong, but the Supreme Court case that actually ruled for the Cherokee involved the State of Georgia.

[iam416]

If you care to read Worcester v Georgia: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/31/515

The germaine portion of a deathly dull opinion:

The Cherokee Nation, then, is a distinct community occupying its own territory, with boundaries accurately described, in which the laws of Georgia can have no force, and which the citizens of Georgia have no right to enter but with the assent of the Cherokees themselves, or in conformity with treaties and with the acts of Congress. The whole intercourse between the United States and this Nation, is, by our Constitution and laws, vested in the Government of the United States.

The act of the State of Georgia, under which the plaintiff in error was prosecuted, is consequently void, and the judgment a nullity. Can this Court revise, and reverse it?

Learned a little something today!

[crashcourse]

you should learn how to write a check to the honorable all round good guy winner of the 2016 college picks contest

[Wild Hoss]

guffaw

[Dr. Strangelove]

It was obviously about slavery. The single best piece of evidence is the proposed Crittenden amendment. There are ample other contemporaneous statements from southern leaders.

It was, to a lesser degree, about power. It was clear that the North would gain eventual power over the South, but it was power measured in "free or slave" states.

Secession was the decision of the politically powerful and the politically powerful made the decision based on slavery. The poor folks then fought for their state loyalties. But when you're looking at why the South committed treason you look at the decision-makers, not the private from Threetoe, Georgia.

Lincoln's quote is irrelevant in that (a) it's after the fact of secession; and (b) he wasn't making the decision to secede. The reason for the decision to secede was clear. At that point, Lincoln's hand was forced. Sure, if he could have preserved the union by passing an amendment anointing Santa Claus Senator Pro Tem, he would have. But the South left him once choice and they did so in the name of slavery.

And then the treasonous fucks were entirely and thoroughly conquered.

At the risk of agreeing with you too much, this is damn near perfect

[Dr. Strangelove]

Sally Yates testifies next week. 'Sources' say she will contradict the WH's series of events.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politics/sally-yates-michael-flynn-testimony-contradict/

[froot loops]

Get a big bucket of popcorn for next week.