Miscellaneous And Off Topic Subjects

[hack]

You didn't really want me to tee off on that. You're welcome.

As said before, I'm here for a bit of meaningless bullshitting. I'm not here to back anybody into a corner. I say you should either keep it light, or return to this apolitical discussion you all are having about the outside world. That's right in your wheelhouse.

[Rob F]

just admit it, you two guys just like looking at tail...and thats the only kind that would look back longingly at you!

[Optimus Prime]

Jacked in Broward County is trashtalking me? LOL. I was a police reporter there. I know the place. And frankly I've had lovely strolls through places that eat the worst of Broward County for a bedtime snack. Maybe you were wearing your white pants and a pastel v-neck. I could see how, vis-a-vis me, a person like you might get a little spooked.

Screw the CCW Hack, I am certain if you disclose the fact you come from a proud and long line of "delicate" men, coupled with your quasi-legal training (sort of) as a police reporter just before you are pounded into a coma, you probably don't have a care in world.


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New York (CNN) -- Prosecutors dropped charges Wednesday against one of two men arrested in connection with an attack over the weekend on an SUV driver who was swarmed by bikers on a New York City street.
"We are taking Sunday's crimes extremely seriously, and will proceed with charges in a manner that enables us to build the strongest cases possible," said Karen Friedman-Agnifilo, the prosecutor who is overseeing the case.
Charges against motorcyclist Allen Edwards were dropped. The 42-year-old biker had originally faced charges of reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing, the New York City Police Department said.
But that didn't mean the prosecutors were done.

Biker injured clash with SUV driver Motorcycles, SUV clash on NYC streets

Police say the driver, identified by a source as Alexian Lien, called 911 on Sunday saying bikers were driving erratically.
"Prematurely charging individuals with low-level crimes does not further the goals of the investigation, and could weaken the cases we expect to bring against the perpetrators of serious crimes," said Friedman-Agnifilo said in a statement. "After we investigate the facts and each person's individual actions, we will know what charges can be supported by the evidence. There is still a tremendous amount of investigation to be done."
The incident has drawn attention because much of it was captured in a video that shows Edwards just before the alleged assault.
Edwards is one of the bikers seen pounding on the windows of a Range Rover after it was forced to stop in traffic following a chase by bikers -- an account confirmed by a police official.
Edwards may have been trying to protect the driver of the SUV who had come under attack, according to one witness, a law enforcement official said.
If so, that may not be obvious in the video, which appears to have been shot by a biker, because it ends before the driver of the SUV is dragged from the vehicle, which also held his wife and 2-year-old daughter.
Edwards, who surrendered to police, is cooperating with authorities, the Manhattan district attorney's office said.
Police have said the SUV driver, identified by a source with knowledge of the incident as businessman Alexian Lien, initially called 911 on Sunday afternoon to report that bikers were driving erratically on the West Side Highway.
Police say Lien sped off after allegedly accidentally hitting one biker, Christopher Cruz, who had moved in front of his SUV and then slowed.
Cruz, 28, was in court Wednesday facing misdemeanor charges, including reckless driving. Cruz's attorney told reporters that his client is not guilty.
He was to be released after posting $1,500 cash bail and a $15,000 insurance bond. In addition, his license was suspended and he was ordered to surrender his passport.
Investigators say Lien told them he feared for his life when bikers surrounded his vehicle, pounding on it and slashing his tires.
He stepped on the gas and hit three more bikers, injuring one of them -- Edwin Mieses -- critically.
"All of his ribs are fractured," Mieses' mother, Yolanda Santiago, told WBZ, "his lungs are so badly bruised that he's still on a ventilator."
Mieses' wife said he had been trying to help the first biker who was initially hit by the SUV when he, too, was hit.
His family has said he is paralyzed and in a coma.
Police said the biker group, called "Hollywood Stuntz," chased the driver, whose flat tires forced him to stop.
Cornered, Lien was beaten, police said. He was treated at a hospital for slashes to his face and released. Neither his wife nor his child was hurt.

[Mike]

Lien should have backed over them.

[Optimus Prime]

Gotta ask Hack, when you were in "Police Reporter Academy Part Deux", I guess it was sorta like being a peace officer without the paperwork, no?

Did you ever pistol whip anyone or boost a squad car over the weekend and pull over your neighbors?

Shit like:
Hack:"Ma'am you were doing 20 in 15"!
Victim:"I don't think you have the authority to pull me over, you are dressed like a Librarian draped in pastels, besides seriously doubt they allow gay men on the force"?
Hack: "Trust me Ma'am, I am a Police Reporter, kindly step out of vehicle"!

Must of been a rush.

[Rocky Bleier]

Well, it wasn't a free society before Castro either. They had a dictator for decades who was in deep with the mafia. If it had been a paradise for the Cuban people, Castro never would've won anyone to his cause. And FWIW, the US initially thought it could work with Castro and approved of Batista's overthrow.

Don't get me wrong, Castro's a piece of crap. But what they had before was no picnic.

Fascism and Socialism. Just try Capitalism! Won't happen because governments like to control economies and people. Wish I lived when America was a free market capitalist country. Now Washington regulates everything, while the Fed controls the economy.

[THE_WIZARD_]

Illinois Nazis. I hate Illinois Nazis.

[Ghengis Jon]

I'm ready to give anarchy a try. Better than Democrat socialism, Republican fascism, Tea Party lunacy, or an unfettered Big Brother state. Good God, can't we all just sit back and enjoy CFB?

[Dr. Strangelove]

Fascism and Socialism. Just try Capitalism! Won't happen because governments like to control economies and people. Wish I lived when America was a free market capitalist country. Now Washington regulates everything, while the Fed controls the economy.

Yeah those were the glory days of America, back when you could lynch a black man with no repercussions and if your half-assed coal mine collapsed, you paid each of the widows $5 and told them to get the hell out of your company town.

God bless unrestrained, free market capitalism. Everything since 1890 has been total bullshit.

[Rocky Bleier]

You misunderstan capitalism.

Capitalism is a social system based on the recognition of individual rights, including property rights, in which all property is privately owned.


The only function of the government, in such a society, is the task of protecting man’s rights, i.e., the task of protecting him from physical force; the government acts as the agent of man’s right of self-defense, and may use force only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use; thus the government is the means of placing the retaliatory use of force under objective control.

[Hannibal]

Reminiscing about capitalism = reminscing about lynching black people. Don't you know that, Rocky?

(Hmm, if the "reminiscing" parts cancel each other out, I guess that means capitalism = lynching black people)

[Dr. Strangelove]

Yep, you and Rocky here have a fetish for the 19th century. You both think the 20th century on has been miserable. Life for the common man was significantly better in the good ol days of 1882.

[Tony G]

You misunderstan capitalism.

Capitalism is a social system based on the acquiring as much of everything as possible and then using it to fuck over everyone else. This is especially rewarded at the highest levels when you get the opportunity to pollute, or abuse workers without government intervention.

[whodean]

Shouldn't you be protesting with the occupy hippies somewhere?

[Rob F]

You misunderstan capitalism.

Why bring Stan into it? He's been behaving himself all football season so far. Let sleeping dogs lie...