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  • #31
    Sports writers are giving the rivalry impact too much credit. As well, the NWS is now forecasting a dry Saturday evening, game time temps in the mid 40s winds 12 mph. That's a change from a 40% chance of showers. But, and as usual, the NWS says, "this could change." ..... this is SE MI.

    I'll review this post and make appropriate changes after I see mgo's takes on the game, esp. LB and S play. Here are my thoughts as of now:

    If MSU has got anything in it's bag of offensive plays just for M, they'll be out of those by the end of the first quarter/M will figure them out. Sparty will revert to it's #86 offense (S&P+). M is #9. Sparty's defense is decent (S&P+ #26, M is #3) but I'm going to make a bold prediction: M will punish it.

    If Sparty defends M like everyone else has, the effectiveness against what I suspect will be Moore's run game focus with judicious use of PA, rests on MSU's LB play and secondarily the S spot. These positions have to be gap sound v. M's tendency to "Duo" the tackles and spread out the inside gaps (A & B). Last Saturday, IU was good at this, deftly picking the gap that Corum or Edwards tried to fit into. M responded with their revised version of the stretch play (see mgo's Neck Sharpies article). Good night IU. The same thing is likely to happen to MSU. Add in McCarthy's arm and legs and that McCarthy burned IU several times with the PA pass to wide open receivers v. the IU defense jumping their S's into the box, MSU is not going to stop M's offense. There will be gnashing of teeth for M fans early but the result of the game will never be in doubt. M will dictate how the game unfolds.

    38 - 13 M

    Exactly matching S&P+ predicted win margin of 25 points. Caveats apply: (1) Even though it works for me in this analysis, S&P+ does not reliably predict score differentials so, there is that. (2) The rivalry factor in the game plays more heavily than I think it will.​
    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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    • #32
      The "rivalry" impact <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< the HARBAUGH!!!!!!! impact...
      Shut the fuck up Donny!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post
        Sports writers are giving the rivalry impact too much credit. As well, the NWS is now forecasting a dry Saturday evening, game time temps in the mid 40s winds 12 mph. That's a change from a 40% chance of showers. But, and as usual, the NWS says, "this could change." ..... this is SE MI.​
        Since I'll be there in corner of the upper deck, I'll tell exactly what the weather will be: A big fucking bowl of suck. There's an ever-present dark cloud of doom and despair that hovers over that god-forsaken "university".

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        • #34
          Ahhhhh.....memories...MSU punt block.jpg
          Shut the fuck up Donny!

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          • #35
            I can pretty much guarantee that if it comes down to something like that on Saturday night, it would be because about 1000 other things went REALLY wrong before it.

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            • #36
              I'd like to say I'm not nervous about this one, but too many bad memories of some fluky stupid shit happening in this game. Michigan should roll them, but you never know with Sparty.

              However, I think despite what the coaches say in press conferences, Michigan remembers the tunnel incident. I don't expect them to let up on Sparty if they get the chance so I'll say:

              Michigan - 45
              Sparty - 10

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              • #37
                Bloodbath
                Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                • #38
                  Cheatin' HARBAUGH'S!!!!!!! 44 Phone Boyz 6
                  Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                  • #39
                    Spent some time with Alex Drain's Fee Fi Foe Film, MSU's Defense today because, based on M's base running play (Duo, Inside Power ) and Moore's counter (Revamped Zone Stretch), LB and S play is critical to mucking these plays up. IU was good at it to start the game but later that advantage ebbed with the defenders getting bothered by OL shifts. MSU has 3 starter type LBs: Mississippi transfer Aaron Brule, Fr. Jordan Hall and Cal Halladay. Drain assess the LB core as not bad but also not notably good. Of the three, the best at pure athleticism is Fr. Jordan Hall who while skilled makes typical Fr. mistakes. The strength of the front 7 is at OT (Simeon Barrow). and accompanying him with hands in the dirt is NT Derick Hamon. To his right and left on the OL, the WDE and Star are just guys. Maryland didn't plow MSU's D but it had considerable success moving the ball on the ground. Tua had some nice designed QB runs and JJ, if he's allowed, should have some run there too.

                    It does not appear to me that the MSU front 7 is going to be able to keep M's RBs, and the threat of JJ carrying it, in check for 60 minutes of playing time.The one bright spot for MSU's DL is that OT Simeon Barrow is very quick off the line and frequently penetrated Maryland's OL, then being able to track down a ball carrier trying to edge the defense. I hate when that happens whne Corum has an eye on a lane, is about to hit it with a burst and a defender gets him with an ankle tackle.

                    I didn't get from Drain's analysis that the LBs and Ss were good at plugging the A and B gaps that Duo is designed to open - this just out of the advantage M's OL has over MSU's DL in size, experience and skill sets. That's bad news for MSU because if the ground game is productive, Moore is going to burn clock and shorten the game with long drives - at least 4 of them in the first half. He'll take that into the 3rd quarter, get one scoring drive out of the starters and start subbing players after that.

                    I'm sticking with my score prediction - 38-13 M.
                    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                    • #40
                      If I were a Michigan defender, before every play I'd tell Sparty "we know exactly what the play is". Even if I didn't, it would be fun to fuck with them.

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                      • #41
                        I'm still laughing at how quickly MSU threatened to back out of the game 'due to safety concerns for our players".

                        This, from a program that took pride in "unnecessary roughness" as a means to beat Michigan.
                        "The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, .. I'd worn them for weeks, and they needed the air"

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                        • #42
                          Backing out of games is definitely something M is familiar with.
                          Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                          Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by iam416 View Post
                            Backing out of games is definitely something M is familiar with.
                            CRD not getting that hundo against Michigan's pom pom squad still hurts, yes?

                            Patience, grasshopper. You may get your wish in '24. Michigan is losing just about everybody, including quite possibly the coaching staff.

                            "The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, .. I'd worn them for weeks, and they needed the air"

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                            • #44
                              Lol. You were just waiting to post that. I'm glad they decided to play. Some great signs are going to be at the game.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by klondike View Post
                                Lol. You were just waiting to post that. I'm glad they decided to play. Some great signs are going to be at the game.
                                I'd love to go just so I could hold up a sign that says "SIGN", .. or "Steal my sign".

                                Good stuff.
                                "The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, .. I'd worn them for weeks, and they needed the air"

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