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  • If he leaves that'll hopefully be egg on the faces of people that really deserve it. And maybe the ensuing soul searching might even deliver some sort of results for the future.

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    • I agree about the denials most of the time being worthless, but the owner never has to issue a denial.

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      • Originally posted by hack View Post
        If he leaves that'll hopefully be egg on the faces of people that really deserve it. And maybe the ensuing soul searching might even deliver some sort of results for the future.
        I really doubt it. For years during our forum time together, we've shared similar views of the anchor that the U administration is to the football program. I think I first took notice near the end of the Carr tenure when Bill Martin wanted LC to stay, he didn't want to and the program suffered for two years becasue of Martin's unwillingness to move ahead with necessary changes. The transition was poorly thought out, failed to recognize that a "hillbilly" (my characterization deserved or not) and his wife in white go-go boots were a poor fit for Ann Arbor culture and the Michigan football program - with all it's strap hanger alumni and former players/coaches wanting to get high-ups ears and be influencers. Then we had Dave Brandon, M's worst AD in my life time and probably history and the Hoke disaster.

        I don't think those things have changed. I dread a coaching search without a clear vision and with muddled objectives.
        Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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        • According to Ross, he's not likely to check in on Jim Harbaugh. He said this in his press conference today after the firing of Flores was announced (seemed amicable).

          “We’re going to do a thorough review and interview process,” said Ross, a Michigan alum who recently saw the Wolverines play at Hard Rock Stadium in the Orange Bowl and College Football Playoff semifinal on Dec. 31. “I’m not going to be the person that takes Jim Harbaugh from the University of Michigan. I hope he stays there. He’s a great coach.”

          TBC, I don't doubt one bit that Ross has spoken with Harbaugh since M's OB loss. Ross was there and the Harbaughs, all 3 of them, are tight with the Ross family.
          Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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          • I believe Ross when he says he won't be the one that takes Harbaugh away from Michigan. Harbaugh will not coach the Dolphins as long as Ross owns them.

            I truly believe the only way Harbaugh leaves, is if he gets stonewalled by the university when it comes to NIL, and keeping up with the big spenders. If M refuses to get into that, then I can see Harbaugh leaving. If M goes along, he's staying. He wants to at least compete for talent with the big boys. He won't go into recruiting/NIL with his hands tied.

            Finally, the best source to listen to when it comes to Harbaugh possibly leaving is John Bacon. He was the only sportswriter nationwide, who had the whole story correct from start to finish when Harbaugh came to Michigan. He knows all the Harbaugh family, and speaks with them all the time. Any other 'insider' is just blowing smoke.
            "in order to lead America you must love America"

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            • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post

              I really doubt it. For years during our forum time together, we've shared similar views of the anchor that the U administration is to the football program. I think I first took notice near the end of the Carr tenure when Bill Martin wanted LC to stay, he didn't want to and the program suffered for two years becasue of Martin's unwillingness to move ahead with necessary changes. The transition was poorly thought out, failed to recognize that a "hillbilly" (my characterization deserved or not) and his wife in white go-go boots were a poor fit for Ann Arbor culture and the Michigan football program - with all it's strap hanger alumni and former players/coaches wanting to get high-ups ears and be influencers. Then we had Dave Brandon, M's worst AD in my life time and probably history and the Hoke disaster.

              I don't think those things have changed. I dread a coaching search without a clear vision and with muddled objectives.
              Agree. Not going to stop me from engaging in fantasies about unviersity leadership recognizing facts and responding intelligently, so let me make it clear that that's all I'm doing. Just hoping.

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              • Originally posted by hack View Post

                Agree. Not going to stop me from engaging in fantasies about unviersity leadership recognizing facts and responding intelligently, so let me make it clear that that's all I'm doing. Just hoping.
                I'd be fired up if Warde Manuel stepped up in front of the cameras and microphones, and announced that "Michigan intends to be at the top nationally when it comes to recruiting, and in NIL opportunities for all of its athletes in all sports".

                But, I'm not holding my breath on that one.
                "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                • Hmmm for those who care, since 1997 and the fifth time in the last 70 years, the Michigan football team finished in the top three of the final AP Poll of the season.
                  Last edited by WingsFan; January 11, 2022, 10:45 AM.

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                  • 5 times in 70 years? Wow.
                    Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                    Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                    • Yep. It was a fantastic season and I enjoyed every minute of it except for the sludgefart second half against Rutgers.

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                      • 5 times in 70 years? Wow.

                        Kind of had the same reaction

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                        • So, the last 3 times...2021, 1997, 1986?
                          Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                          Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                          • 1985 they finished #2 behind Oklahoma. 1986 they finished #7 after losing the Rose Bowl.

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                            • 1985 they got lucky against UNL in the Fiesta.

                              fuckin' HARBAUGH!!!!
                              Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                              • Luck had nothing to do with it!

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