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**WingsFan** · December 10, 2021, 04:46 PM

I just wanted to try it once since I see you guys doing it all the time

Hey now, hold up there the only one who does this is THE WIZARD and he has been doing it for EVER! He did it way back in the worldcrossing days. You might think he would be tired of doing it, but he has a lot of resolve. Talent likes it though.

**THE_WIZARD_** · December 10, 2021, 05:03 PM

STFU

**Da Geezer** · December 10, 2021, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by iam416 View Post

Betting on baseball and steroid use are still illegal. The fundamentally American concept of receiving some sort of fair benefit (in this case, in the form of a loan) for your talents is now fully recognized and endorsed by the NCAA. A mere two years later. So, you know...

Cheaters should not get awards. Period.

**Mike** · December 12, 2021, 12:26 AM

Hutchinson was 2nd in the Heisman voting! That remains higher than any MSU player ever.

**WingsFan** · December 12, 2021, 05:40 AM

Oh my, Desmond clowning Stoud and osu on national TV upset a lot of people.

Tim Tebow stepped forward and thanked Pitt quarterback Kenny Pickett for being between Hutchinson and Buckeyes quarterback C.J. Stroud.

"I'm glad you're in between them. It's good. Please stay there," Tebow said.

Howard, a Michigan alum and the 1991 Heisman winner, responded: "Better than his offensive linemen."

**WingsFan** · December 13, 2021, 09:04 AM

**Mike** · December 13, 2021, 09:05 AM

That's how you properly deal with a scumbag like Zach Smith.

**lineygoblue** · December 13, 2021, 10:21 AM

Zach Smith doesn't have a Heisman Trophy.

Zach Smith has never won a Super Bowl MVP

Zach Smith does not have a Super Bowl ring.

Who the F is Zach Smith?

**Mike** · December 13, 2021, 10:29 AM

Be was a substandard position coach who lost his job for repeatedly beating his wife.

**lineygoblue** · December 13, 2021, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Mike View Post

Be was a substandard position coach who lost his job for repeatedly beating his wife.

Oh, .. THAT Zach Smith ...

and he's the arbiter on whether Desmond has "class" or not?

What a fricking loser.

NO REAL MAN LAYS A HAND ON A WOMAN. EVER!!!

I can't stand those types of "men". They think its acceptable to backhand the women in their lives. They're fricking losers, every single one of them.

If anyone in this forum hits the woman/women in your lives, .. Yes, I'm talking to you too. F you.

**WingsFan** · December 13, 2021, 10:51 AM

He also had a Ton of sex toys delivered to the Ohio State Football facilitys.

**hack** · December 13, 2021, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by WingsFan View Post

He also had a Ton of sex toys delivered to the Ohio State Football facilitys.

In retrospect that was some forward thinking. Preparation for playing Michigan in 2021.

The opportunities to beat them have been few and far between, because more often than not nice guys do indeed finish last, but when the reverse happens those folks do tend to whine about class and ethics and it's just so damn fun to throw that back in their craven faces. They've given Michigan so much material to work with.

(That said, Desmond didn't have to. No need to open your mouth when Tebow is already saying it for you.)

**Tom W** · December 13, 2021, 12:24 PM

You don't have to be nice ALL of the time.

Honesty is almost ways welcome, though. And there are, in fact, times when full throttle sarcasm, to the point of cruelty, is called for.

**lineygoblue** · December 13, 2021, 12:32 PM

You know Michigan is doing well when MSU and OSU fans are pissed off at us.

**Jeff Buchanan** · December 13, 2021, 03:17 PM

Its a bit embarrassing that I keep linking to stuff at mgo but I'm hoping that posters that don't check in on occasion to read the featured pieces and diaries that appear there (not mgoboard) will read them. The link below is a nicely composed and insightful piece on the "Michigan Difference"........ derided by outsider fans and often characterized as arrogance.

The piece pushes to the fore an essential truth about Jim Harbuagh's and his Wolverine team's accomplishments in the 2021 CFB season ...... that pursuing goals - in this case winning championships by following rules and the concepts of meritocracy - is doable in a world where taking short cuts (cheating) and borderline behaviors seems like a reasonable thing to do because everyone else is doing that to get ahead and win.

Hot Seat Vibes: They Actually Believe This Stuff | mgoblog

https://mgoblog.com/content/hot-seat-vibes-they-actually-believe-stuff#read-more

Within this calendar year, responses to the announcement of Jim Harbaugh’s reduced-salary contract extension on this site included words and phrases like “apathetic,” “off the rails,” “laughingstock,” “worst deal any coach of a major program has ever signed,” “none of this matters,” “mediocrity personified,” “failing marriage,” and “weird, quirky, catatonic failure.” Now he is a Big Ten champion; his seat is only hot in the sense of being warm and comfortable. It may vibrate a little, to gently massage his buttocks, which are lean and healthy this season. Elsewhere, coaches with less impressive résumés are getting larger contracts, while coaches with comparable résumés are getting waaaaaaaay larger contracts. Harbaugh and Michigan’s response was to announce that he will be giving the performance bonuses he earns this year, which are already substantial, to athletic department employees who have had pandemic-related pay reductions. It’s a classic Harbaugh move, justified in the abstract but also seemingly intended to really needle the hell out of someone, like, say, a rival school that may have signed its own coach to a 10-year, $75 million extension during its team’s second straight year of having a losing record in conference. It’s also—and look, I was as tired of talking about this trope as anyone else, but I have to call ‘em like I see ‘em—the ultimate triumph of the Michigan Man (and Woman). A year ago the University of Michigan’s entire philosophical deal, which Harbaugh embodies, appeared outdated. Without rendering any political judgment on the hows and the whys, we can likely agree that the concept of “meritocracy” has become an increasingly controversial one at the same time that long standing American institutions which rely on rules and “norms” have become less stable. This puts a tradition-obsessed institution like Michigan, whose self-conception involves meritocracy and rule-following, but also being the best at everything, in a tough spot. [After THE JUMP: Sorting out trite from faith]

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