Actual Big Ten Football for 2020! Discuss....

[Cody_Russell]

PJ Fleck has Minnesota at a good place right now (until a random SEC school obviously, so obvious, snatches Fleck from the B10). If M and Minnesota began a series, it would be fun to watch!

I wish that could happen and the Rutgers + Maryland games would be kicked off the yearly schedule...

[iam416]

I see why Mgo censors Deace. He’s the one who says the emperor has no clothes. Can’t have that.

Schlissel is holding up October football? Yeah, I believe that.

I’m ready for OSU to depart this shitball conference.

[Jeff Buchanan]

FL Gators announced on Friday that home games will be played at 20% Swamp capacity or about 17K+ fans. Details on who gets to attend will be released next week.

The SEC, which unlike the BT, elected to play a fall schedule, has reportedly left decisions on fan attendance at home games up to the schools. I have two questions:

What easily available COVID data are the several schools that reportedly are holding up the BT from playing fall football looking at that is different from what SEC schools are looking at?

Are the risks of the SEC's COA for both playing a schedule and allowing fans to attend games evaluated to be less than those of the BT and what are the BT's risk calculations based on?

[Dr. Strangelove]

May have been posted yesterday but TCU has 'postponed' their season opener with SMU next friday because too many football players and staffers tested positive

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29812490/tcu-delaying-opener-smu-positive-coronavirus-tests

[lineygoblue]

Jeff -- I think the Big Ten might be saying (not intentionally of course) that they care about their players and fans more than the SEC does. Its not true, of course, but that the message it sends.

Its akin to California Governor Gavin Newsome saying that he cares about church folks more than bar patrons so he fines the church folks for meeting, and leaves the bar patrons alone.

[AlabamAlum]

I think they looked at the ‘woke optics’ and let that make the decision for them.

Any large gathering (except the “protests”) is considered right wing and Trumpian.

[Jeff Buchanan]

I think they looked at the ‘woke optics’ and let that make the decision for them.

Any large gathering (except the “protests”) is considered right wing and Trumpian.

So your saying officials in the case of the BT deciding how to respond to the pandemic have no interest in formulating a response based on the current knowledge of SARS-CoV-2 and other related pandemic facts?

Of course, that's a rhetorical question. But it is still instructive because at the micro level of the BT it is probably representative of the over-all macro level approach to the pandemic across the US including the federal, state and county responses.

Still, there are what I would characterize as bold responses that have moved past the over-all bull-shit that the BT's response is reflective of. The P3 response - play-ball - is a good example of boldness, so are schools that have re-opened with some level of in-person learning. Governor Desantis, amid harsh criticism from his political opponents and some PH officials, has carried out a pandemic response in FL that is as good as any, probably better in that he has been an articulate spokesperson for re-opening the FL economy calculating the risk for its collapse to be much higher than the risks of high levels of debilitating disease burden from SARS-CoV-2 and C-19. So far, he's been spot on.

My hope is that the continuing typical hand-wringing, woke entwined ball-less response is shown to be exactly what it is and officials who embraced it in their pandemic response and the public that applauded them for their meekness are exposed.

[iam416]

Woke optics is spot on.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Woke optics is spot on.

Truth.

I am continually amazed at the counter-factual reality that has been created wrt COVID that so many are unduly influenced by and fearful of. That's not intended to minimize the seriousness of SARS-CoV-2. But it is so blindingly simple to keep yourself, regardless of how careless others around you might be, from becoming infected, i.e, distance and mask when you can't, wash your hands - don['t touch your face - and if you don't like the scene in the venue you're thinking about going into, don't go!!!

That messaging from all kinds of levels is abundant. You have to be willing to hear it and act on it while it's being drowned out by intentional misinformation and the media either augmenting that or doing their duty to scare the shit out of everyone.

[Hannibal]

You don't even have to worry about getting infected unless you are an 85 year old who is obese and has asthma. What's really mind-boggling about this disease is how specific to a tiny subset of the population its deaths are, and the misperception that most people have about the danger that it poses.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Seconded ...... with a caveat.

The numbers support that view when one looks at the big picture. It's on a personal level that dealing with COVID if you become infected and for whatever reasons get seriously ill it becomes a big deal. It doesn't happen a lot but it does happen ..... perfectly healthy people w/o comorbidities and under the age of 55 become infected and COVID takes a toll. Medical professionals with boots in the ER and those doing the research on this both know it happens and can't completely explain it. The best explanation I've heard is that individuals that this is occurring to have an extraordinary exposure to large numbers of infective verions and their immune systems over-react causing the cytokine overload response that, poorly managed, will kill the patient. The good news is that practicing MDs know about this now, understand what patient management approaches work and watch for it when a patient presents to the ED with depressed 02 sats.

There's a corollary. Right before I retired from ED practice, the mortality rate from sepsis discovered after a hospital admission via the ED was high. So, a protocol was fashioned to screen every patient coming through the ED door for Sepsis. This was done by the triage nurses and then repeated by the treating providers. You checked the box for any of the screening measures and the first thin to do was to draw blood cultures X 2 and start the patient on empiric antibiotics. Mortality from sepsis in admitted patients dropped dramatically. I've seen some of the COVID ED screening protocols but don't know if they have had the same kind of positive impact that the Sepsis protocols did. Suspect they have. Fucking facts might get in the way of the narrative if this kind of thing were reported on by the lay press though.

[lineygoblue]

You don't even have to worry about getting infected unless you are an 85 year old who is obese and has asthma. What's really mind-boggling about this disease is how specific to a tiny subset of the population its deaths are, and the misperception that most people have about the danger that it poses.

Well, maybe not 85. We just had a 65 year old man in our community that passed away this week from Covid. Yes, he also had heart issues, and those heart issues were likely made worse by the virus.

I'm hoping that my cardiologist wasn't just blowing smoke up my wazoo when he said "this will all be over in 6 months". I hope he's right. We've lost too many older folks who deserved to go on living before this China virus took them early.

[iam416]

Against all odds, Ohio has somehow managed to complete Week 2 of HS football.

[lineygoblue]

Against all odds, Ohio has somehow managed to complete Week 2 of HS football.

Excellent. I hope they can continue to play as normal.

[THE_WIZARD_]

I had a friend...ok he wasn't a friend ...I have none...I have this fiend...he came down with Covid...the next day he was run over by a truck...he was only 54 so don't give me this 85 year old crap Hanni!!! Nazi!! Trumpiista!!!