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  • Hack makes a good point about Wisconsin's part in this. Juwan started the whole thing, and should be appropriately punished. However, upon further review, the video does show Wisconsin assistants taking swings at Michigan players. So I agree that Wisconsin's role in this is not pure lily white innocence.

    What I'm concerned about is that Juwan is going to be held to this incredibly high standard that nobody could attain, and then be punished. Where someone like Coach K or Izzo, or some other well-liked coach would likely get a 2-3 game suspension, Howard is likely to get booted for the remainder of the season, including the Big Ten tournament. Why? Because Michigan.

    And speaking of Wisconsin's coaches, I do now believe Gard's statement that he was trying to explain his time outs to Howard at the time the situation became heated. What is being conveniently ignored, is that Wisconsin's assistant(s) played a role in escalating the situation, rather than de-escalating. If Howard wasn't willing to listen to Gard's explanation at that point, both men should have separated, and then spoke to each other later by phone or e-mail. That's on both of them. The Wisconsin assistants had no business interjecting themselves into the situation, or putting their hands on Michigan players.

    Finally, I still don't understand WHY there HAS to be a 'handshake line' following a game. When I played HS sports back in the late 60's and early 70's, we never had "handshake lines". We went straight to our locker rooms. In fact, everything possible was done to keep the teams separate following the games. The LAST thing they wanted was for us to be jawing with the other team. Of course, I was raised in Flint, where a fight could start over just about anything, so maybe that explains that. But I think the handshake lines should be done away with. In these days of social media, if players want to congratulate each other, do it on twitter, or instagram, or whatever. I know .. I'm a bad sport ... yadda yadda
    "in order to lead America you must love America"

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    • SVG is talking specifically about handshake lines as well.

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      • Maybe he'll get turned down by the Timberwolves. Wouldn't that be ironic.
        Shut the fuck up Donny!

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        • Bottom line is had HOWARD!!!!! just kept walking...none of this would have happened. You have to be bigger than that.
          Shut the fuck up Donny!

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          • I don't think anyone is arguing a suspension isn't in order. Firing him would be a knee-jerk overreaction to placate sanctimonious sports writers, opposing fans, and self-flagellating UM fans who sniff their own farts. Fuck all three groups in their stupid asses.

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            • It's a must. Looking back, the ``I'm from the south side of Chicago" excuse after the Maryland game is a giant red flag. Again, that's why PR people are paid six figures to worry about things that might happen in the future.

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              • I agree about the Chicago thing. He's not there anymore. He's a Big Ten basketball coach at one of the top universities in the world. It isn't (or shouldn't be) run by Chicago street rules. We don't need any more Lori LightBrain's.

                Maybe in place of a post-game handshake something like a pre-game greeting could be done. Those who wish to participate could come to the center line, shake hands, and then go about their ways. Coaches do this all the time. Eliminate the post game thing especially after a particularly heated game, or one with a controversial ending. Just eliminate the post game thing. I've noticed that in the NFL not everyone goes to the center of the field to shake hands. Lots of guys head straight to the locker room. I say if a player can't be civil after a game, then let them head to the locker room. Don't force them to congratulate the opponent. LaBron regularly ignores 'handshakes' after a game unless he's won something big. In fact, most times he's one of the first to leave the court.

                I'm all for good sportsmanship. I respect those who regularly display good sportsmanship. But if someone is too emotional after a game, and they choose to leave, or go immediately to the locker room, isn't that better than what we saw yesterday? I would have rather seen Juwan head straight to the locker room than confront Garde. Let them talk later.
                "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                • Blaming the handshake line is silly. So is pressing the other team's scrubs in the last half minute. Admit defeat, play out the string, get out of Madison. If you insist on pressing their scrubs, don't get mad when they call a timeout.

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                  • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                    Blaming the handshake line is silly. So is pressing the other team's scrubs in the last half minute. Admit defeat, play out the string, get out of Madison. If you insist on pressing their scrubs, don't get mad when they call a timeout.
                    Agreed. I didn’t see the end of the game but learning about the lead up to the scrum puts it almost squarely on Juwan. Wisconsin certainly helped escalate things, tho.

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                    • You can take the man out of the southside...but you can't take the southside out of the man...just ask Bad Bad Leroy Brown...who learned his lesson the hard way...
                      Shut the fuck up Donny!

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                      • Funny thing is unless you're from Chicago you don't know what that stigma is like. They don't take shit from no one. You touch me.. it's going down..

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                        • Originally posted by THE_WIZARD_ View Post
                          You can take the man out of the southside...but you can't take the southside out of the man...just ask Bad Bad Leroy Brown...who learned his lesson the hard way...
                          So did Croce.

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                          • Originally posted by THE_WIZARD_ View Post
                            Bottom line is had HOWARD!!!!! just kept walking...none of this would have happened. You have to be bigger than that.
                            True. And if Gard had let him walk by, this also wouldn't have happened.

                            But to claim Jawan was reacting to a time-out call with 15 seconds on the clock is silly. If the game is over, then you shouldn't be pressing. If the game is not over, don't be surprised if the opposing coach calls time-out when his team is about to turn the ball over on a 10-second call.

                            I'd just like to know what the Wisconsin coach did (if anything) to warrant being slapped.

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                            • Originally posted by Da Geezer View Post


                              I'd just like to know what the Wisconsin coach did (if anything) to warrant being slapped.
                              It appears that he inserted himself into the situation and pushed a couple of our players. No telling what was said. Now, he could have been trying to break things up but his actions only escalated the fracas. I still think Juwan was trying to grab him by the shirt/collar and not necessarily punch/slap him. If he intended to punch him, he would have struck him with a closed fist.

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                              • Originally posted by Tom W View Post

                                So did Croce.
                                If I could save time in a bottle
                                The first thing that I'd like to do
                                Is to take time back out of the bottle
                                And put Wiz in there
                                And attach it to a Bezos rocket like a tin can on a car bumper

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