ohio state at Michigan, Saturday, 11/30/19, Noon EST, FOX/Fox Video

[Kstat]

One last point before I leave this place for happy hour. Who is responsible for talent disparity?

If Harbaugh gets fired for not having the talent to match this OSU team, so should every coach in America outside of Louisiana. Nick Saban should be fired. This team would smoke them by 35 points as well.

[Dan V]

Talent goes to teams that win. Michigan does not win

[BadWolf]

How many M players don't play in the Outback Bowl?

[JRB]

56-27. I didn't think Michigan could beat this Ohio State team, at least not without a lot of help from the Buckeyes. I was hoping Michigan could manage not to get embarrassed again. That evidently was too much to hope for. A terrific football team won The Game today. Congratulations to them-- the Buckeyes deserved it.

As for Michigan, I don't know what the answer is, if there even is an answer. I don't know how this staff recovers from another pummelling like this. At some point, you just don't have any credibility any more, and if you can't do better than this in the biggest game of your season, your ability to reach your team has to suffer. I can't think of anybody out there who'd take the job who would necessarily do any better, and another coaching change would put Michigan well behind not just Ohio State, but the rest of the top of the conference. I don't think another coaching search is the answer, but I don't think the talent gap is this huge, either-- it's there, but Penn State's managed to be competitive against Ohio State, at least, and Penn State's not worlds more talented than Michigan. Just another terribly disappointing performance when it's mattered most.

[Whitley]

I posted this on my facebook page....

It pains me to say it. But I don't think I will ever see Michigan beat Ohio State ever again in football.




And following that logic. Michigan will never get to the CC. Michigan will never play in the CFP (as long as it is only 4 teams).

[Kstat]

Agreed. Why would anyone be so foolish that they blame the head coach of the program for the state of the program?

The state of the program is not elite but it's not bad either. They've had a good season outside of the Wisconsin game.

If you want Harbaugh fired, that's fair. Just don't pretend to say it's because of this game. They're playing an NFL team. They may be one of the most loaded teams of all time. LSU is the only team that I think can keep it close but they;d be pretty solid underdogs as well.

[Hannibal]

If you want to beat OSU, you have to fire Harbuagh. Period. He is a dogshit clown coach who will never beat OSU or win anything of note. 100% guaranteed.

[hack]

Nope. He's a good coach and probably there isn't a better one we could get under the current system. This is what it feels like to be the Pacers in the 90s and unable to get past Jordan's Bulls. Let's see what might happen when we can pay players. That's going to be an equalizer. Until then, unless it's clear we can do better than Harbaugh I don't see the point.

[Whitley]

Doesn't matter if they brought Bill Bellichek in to be HC.

Michigan will never beat OSU in football again. Michigan will never get to the Big Ten CC. And never get into the CFP (as long as it is 4 teams)

Ohio State has the edge in talent and the willingness (and bag men) to do what they have to maintain their edge and increase it.

[WM Wolverine]

Buckeyes talent is elite, Penn State and Michigan combined might be able to field a squad that could compete with them.

[Kstat]

This game wasn't about Harbaugh, or Michigan. A college team played an NFL team with a couple of college kids sprinkled in. Didn't matter which college team was on the field.

Replace Michigan with Alabama or Georgia or Clemson or Oklahoma, and the final score is probably similar. LSU maybe could beat this team once in 4 or 5 tries.

[froot loops]

I don't get Harbaugh's infatuation with the wildcat.

[Whitley]

Buckeyes talent is elite, Penn State and Michigan combined might be able to field a squad that could compete with them.

And do you see a path where Michigan is ever at the OSU talent level?

[WM Wolverine]

Buckeyes have three Heisman candidates, remove two of them and it's a fair game.

[Hannibal]

Nope. He's a good coach and probably there isn't a better one we could get under the current system. This is what it feels like to be the Pacers in the 90s and unable to get past Jordan's Bulls. Let's see what might happen when we can pay players. That's going to be an equalizer. Until then, unless it's clear we can do better than Harbaugh I don't see the point.

We can do better. Jeff Brohm has a victory against OSU. James Franklin has a victory against OSU. Dantonio has two of them. Quit talking like it's impossible. Auburn has beaten Saban three times this decade. Beating your rival even when they enjoy a talent gap isn't impossible. Bump Elliot beat Woody Hayes three times. Harbitch can't do it because he fucking sucks.