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Michigan Football, the 2020 Abbreviated COVID Season

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  • Its not about being a homer, Brandstatter is really, really bad at play by play.
    He's the absolute worse, ......sacktime! Jesus what a stupid catch phrase - a good homer color guy doing play by play.


    Why the Big Ten Network doesn't just give Millen all Penn State games is beyond me.
    I like Matt Millen, and he likes Michigan. He requested to do Michigan games maybe (?) why we see him so much. Levy, and Reece are terrible out of place calling games, they are better in the studio.


    Fowler hates Michigan. I have had a few words with him on twitter, one of his comebacks was "and im a Aves fan too!

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    • Fowler is better than Brandstatter, but that's not saying much. Brian Cook could probably call a better game than Brandy.

      Fowler still sucks and has no business being an "A" game announcer. He is, by far, the worst "A" game announcer in any sport. He is a great studio host but he has no voice for PxP and you can tell that he has been coached to try and play up exciting moments in big games with fake enthusiasm. Disney hasn't had a good "A" game announcer since Keith Jackson semi-retired and decided to just do West Coast games. They should have made Brad Nessler that guy but they went with Musburger instead. Sean McDonough could do it too but they have never valued him much. There are a couple of guys who do ESPN's minor games that are really good PxP guys but Disney values brand recognition type retarded bullshit more than they value the quality of their game. ESPN thinks that you tune in to watch ESPN, and not just to watch a game. Their target demographic is a stereotypical frat boy who wants to be a professional Dick Vitale impersonator and has lost 20 IQ points from crushing beer cans on his forehead. Once you understand that, the types of things that they do make a lot more sense.

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      • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
        And for the record no fan ever thinks the national guys are biased in favor of them. Heh.
        Anyone who watches Fox and doesn't think that Joel Klatt isn't openly rooting for Michigan isn't paying attention.

        Also -- Bob and Brian Griese LOL
        Last edited by Hannibal; October 15, 2019, 11:36 AM.

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        • A few quick highlights from Brian's UFRs Illinois:

          The offense made sense - return to a fundamental play in 2018's offensive play book, split zone, that worked and kept working with a few new counter or constraint plays thrown in. Not surprisingly, M ran 2 WRs formations a lot and a few 3 WR formations (? 4 becasue close shots by ABC Director).

          Patterson blew some huge keep reads where he gave instead into 7 in the box. These were not questionable DE shuffle plays. They were plays where the DE was crashing inside - no question about it.

          Patterson's passing was inaccurate and in Brian's opinion mostly due to wind. Besides blowing the keep reads, Patterson made some nice RPO reads where he was spot on passing it instead of handing off top the RB. The offense is what it is mostly due to Patterson's limitations but progress on the RPO part of the game that Gattis is trying to install.

          The Illinois offense is not Rutgers. They have some players except at QB and even Robinson was not bad running it. For the most part, the D played well. The 25 point surge was a result of good luck for Illinois and about 5 execution errors made by Vincent Gray and Josh Metellus. Nothing said about being gassed due to the inefficiency of the O in the second half.

          Tempo, yes that. M's D got tempoed an this contributed to the point surge. PSU will see that if they didn't already know about this reoccurring theme.

          What does it mean for PSU? Defense can pressure Clifford through an only OK interior OL. How he handles that will make or break M's chance to steal a win in HV. Patterson just has to play better. If he doesn't M will not be competitive regardless of how well the D plays.
          Last edited by Jeff Buchanan; October 17, 2019, 04:32 PM.
          Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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          • Illinois sucks. Brian is whistling past the graveyard this week.

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            • I thought his analysis was pretty solid and based on a thorough review of the available video. There was a lot of post-game talk that Illinois' offense = Rutgers offense so, nothing to be taken seriously from M's success on defense. Brian didn't agree with that take. He makes a decent case that Illinois played beyond it's statistical rankings. Was that because M's D isn't very good? Aside from the plays that got Illinois within 3 in the 3rd quarter - and that was pretty well explained as serious execution errors of an otherwise decent Brown scheme for Illinois - the D got good pressure on the QB (and that has been in question) and the back end was solid if not spectacular because of Vincent Gray and Josh Metellus errors.

              I'm certainly not arguing, and I don't think Brain was either, that Illinois is a good P5 level offense. He argues that for the most part the D played well and had some big, game changing plays at the right moments. I can't disagree with his analysis.
              Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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              • Why did the defense suck in Illinois' 25 unanswered point surge? These diagrammed plays help me understand why. I don't particularly like, "the defense sucked." Was it (a) scheme, (b) execution, (c) RPS'ed. Turns out a whole lot of (b) and some (c). IOW, Lovie or whoever, made some nice adjusted calls on offense v. what Brown was doing - and nothing wrong with his scheme, IMO. But the big plays Illinois got, and there were a good many of them in that 25 point surge, was primarily from 3 players. Brian, in his UFR, talked about the plays that Illinois made highlighting errors. I thought it was one of his better UFRs and agrees with the discussion I linked to below.

                The Ss, LBs and CBs have to read and execute a shift in responsibilities as a play develops. A continuing trend for M's LBs and DBs is missing these on screens allowing an open receiver crossing the middle of the field. Out of the 16 diagrammed plays I watched, this was the case on 4 of them. This is nothing new. Why does it keep happening?

                Now, this was a comfortable if not ugly win for M but I think what is keeping M's D from locking down the offenses of better teams is the capacity of opposing OCs to advantage their offenses v. specific player weaknesses that they see on tape. Sure, that's what' supposed to happen but glance again at M's losses v. top 10 teams since Harbaugh arrived in 2015. There are 10 games, 1 win and 9 losses, of those 9 losses only 3 of them were close. The rest were easy wins for the opponent by virtue of significantly higher scores that M's offense was unable to match.

                The players on M's D have talent. If JH's football philosophy is what we think it is - low risk offense and by extension low scoring, play to the defense and kicking game - agasint top 10 opponents in any given season, Brown isn't getting the job done. It's hard to understand it unless the coaches just aren't coaching and preparing. In that this is a completely subjective view that I probably have no business making, this looks like what is happening.

                Hey all. Sorry I missed the Iowa analysis. Was in Europe and way too busy to get through with my analysis. I'm late this week on the Illinois analysis (jet-lag) but better late than never! Here's 11 defensive plays, primarily covering the hiccups during Illinois' 4 straight successful drives. Main takeaways
                Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                • Congrats to former Wolverine Brandon Peters. He was concussed against Wisconsin when we had him, and he never played quite the same after that. He was no better than 4th string on Michigan's current roster, so he made a good move to transfer to Illinois so he could play.

                  Today, he comes full circle and leads his team to a win over the Badgers. Good for him. Lovie may actually get another year in Champaign.



                  "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                  • So, after the loss to PSU, the season is over, right? Not so fast, my friend. Among the shit posts at mgo - don't go there unless you want to read the whining and crying of the majority of posters there - there are a few good ones, at least that appeal to me. Here's one of them posted in response to a thread post asking, is it possible PSU could lose three games? .......

                    We wouldn't need Penn State to lose three times, only twice. The most "reasonable" path is MSU knocking off Penn St and OSU losing to Wisconsin next week. Then we need OSU to beat Penn State and for us to obviously win out.

                    In that crazy scenario, you have all three teams tied at 7-2 with each losing once to each other. Because they all lost once to each other (Michigan beat OSU who beat PSU who beat Michigan), you go to the next tiebreaker. Because Penn State lost two games against East teams (OSU and MSU) and UM and OSU only lost one, Michigan advances because of head-to-head over OSU.

                    Obviously, because there's so much season left there's tons of crazy possibilities. If the above happens but with Penn State losing to Minnesota instead of MSU, it actually goes to the fifth tiebreaker and maybe even further. They start to compare the records of the non-division conference teams you had to play. In that scenario we would need Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois' conference records to outperform the cumulative records of PSU's Iowa, Minnesota, and Purdue, and OSU's Wisconsin, Nebraska, and NW. So they actually do penalize you for playing easy cross-division games, but only five tiebreakers in lol


                    Sure, this happening is a huge long shot but it could happen. Take a long drag on the hopium pipe, M fans. Start to appreciate what is but an interesting game played by 19-22 year olds, not a life and death battle that defines you.
                    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                    • Things are looking up in Schembechler Hall!
                      Dan Patrick: What was your reaction to [Urban Meyer being hired]?
                      Brady Hoke: You know.....not....good.

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                      • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post
                        So, after the loss to PSU, the season is over, right? Not so fast, my friend. Among the shit posts at mgo - don't go there unless you want to read the whining and crying of the majority of posters there - there are a few good ones, at least that appeal to me. Here's one of them posted in response to a thread post asking, is it possible PSU could lose three games? .......

                        We wouldn't need Penn State to lose three times, only twice. The most "reasonable" path is MSU knocking off Penn St and OSU losing to Wisconsin next week. Then we need OSU to beat Penn State and for us to obviously win out.

                        In that crazy scenario, you have all three teams tied at 7-2 with each losing once to each other. Because they all lost once to each other (Michigan beat OSU who beat PSU who beat Michigan), you go to the next tiebreaker. Because Penn State lost two games against East teams (OSU and MSU) and UM and OSU only lost one, Michigan advances because of head-to-head over OSU.

                        Obviously, because there's so much season left there's tons of crazy possibilities. If the above happens but with Penn State losing to Minnesota instead of MSU, it actually goes to the fifth tiebreaker and maybe even further. They start to compare the records of the non-division conference teams you had to play. In that scenario we would need Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois' conference records to outperform the cumulative records of PSU's Iowa, Minnesota, and Purdue, and OSU's Wisconsin, Nebraska, and NW. So they actually do penalize you for playing easy cross-division games, but only five tiebreakers in lol


                        Sure, this happening is a huge long shot but it could happen. Take a long drag on the hopium pipe, M fans. Start to appreciate what is but an interesting game played by 19-22 year olds, not a life and death battle that defines you.
                        Ain't nothing like a good moral victory to raise the spirits, eh?

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                        • Ain't nothing like a good moral victory to raise the spirits, eh?
                          Apparently that's the goal of this program from now on. Lots and lots of "moral victories".

                          Even Brady Hoke would laugh at that idea.
                          "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                          • There are some good points and counter-points in this mgobard post. The poster opines:



                            A response:

                            I can handle the conservative playcalls and puzzling decision making on 4th down. Some coaches you just have the live with it. What is really getting to me is the disorganization from top to bottom. Like they pointed out, you finally get a good game from Shea, then everyone else makes dumb errors. The timeout before the first offensive play, the drops, the missed coverage on Hamler. This has been the case for 4+ seasons. Even with the atrocious officiating against OSU in 2016 we still had a chance to win big (the two interceptions deep in our own territory that led to OSU points and the fumble at the goal line). Professional coaches at the top level don't have this stuff happen with this frequency. It's maddening, but we're stuck with it.

                            There are other thought provoking responses. Worth a look.

                            This is probably the first podcast in which Dave Brian and Ace don’t hold back on their Harbaugh criticisms.    It also seems like they’re resigned to the fact that bad game management, Bambi status on the road and general sloppiness is a defining characteristic from the top.    Any way to fix this? Was he like this in San Fran and Stanford? What the hell. 
                            Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                            • J'Marick Woods joins Mustapha Mohammed in the Transfer Portal.

                              Woods will likely have 2 seasons remaining at his new school.

                              I'm sure we're going to see more. I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more QB's enter the portal.
                              "in order to lead America you must love America"

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post
                                So, after the loss to PSU, the season is over, right? Not so fast, my friend. Among the shit posts at mgo - don't go there unless you want to read the whining and crying of the majority of posters there - there are a few good ones, at least that appeal to me. Here's one of them posted in response to a thread post asking, is it possible PSU could lose three games? .......

                                We wouldn't need Penn State to lose three times, only twice. The most "reasonable" path is MSU knocking off Penn St and OSU losing to Wisconsin next week. Then we need OSU to beat Penn State and for us to obviously win out.

                                In that crazy scenario, you have all three teams tied at 7-2 with each losing once to each other. Because they all lost once to each other (Michigan beat OSU who beat PSU who beat Michigan), you go to the next tiebreaker. Because Penn State lost two games against East teams (OSU and MSU) and UM and OSU only lost one, Michigan advances because of head-to-head over OSU.

                                Obviously, because there's so much season left there's tons of crazy possibilities. If the above happens but with Penn State losing to Minnesota instead of MSU, it actually goes to the fifth tiebreaker and maybe even further. They start to compare the records of the non-division conference teams you had to play. In that scenario we would need Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois' conference records to outperform the cumulative records of PSU's Iowa, Minnesota, and Purdue, and OSU's Wisconsin, Nebraska, and NW. So they actually do penalize you for playing easy cross-division games, but only five tiebreakers in lol


                                Sure, this happening is a huge long shot but it could happen. Take a long drag on the hopium pipe, M fans. Start to appreciate what is but an interesting game played by 19-22 year olds, not a life and death battle that defines you.
                                You need Penn State to lose twice and Michigan to win out the rest of the Big Ten schedule. That would get them the CC game.
                                2012 Detroit Lions Draft: 1) Cordy Glenn G , 2) Brandon Taylor S, 3) Sean Spence olb, 4) Joe Adams WR/KR, 5) Matt McCants OT, 7a) B.J. Coleman QB 7b) Kewshan Martin WR

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