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Michigan Football, the 2020 Abbreviated COVID Season

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  • #76
    Yes.
    Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Hannibal View Post
      Weren't there some rumblings a while back that Harbaugh was arm-twisted by Manuel into hiring Gattis?
      REALLY? Very interesting. Anything out there confirming/suggesting that?

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      • #78


        So, at this point, MOST of the skill players are injured. In addition to all of this we've been talking about, you have to question what the heck is going on with S&C, and how exactly these guys are practicing. It wasn't a shock that Charbonnett, who came in with a nagging injury, is now hurt after 33 carries into a stacked line in his second start.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by hack View Post

          REALLY? Very interesting. Anything out there confirming/suggesting that?
          I think there was a post by talent that quoted unnamed assistant coaches discussing this during summer clinics. The word was the Gattis hire - not necessarily him in name but certainly the strong suggestion from above that Harbaugh hire a new OC - was not Jim's decision.

          IMO, that casts a whole new light on questions about Harbaugh's ability to hire and retain staff. Keeping good ones, like Fisch, is hard these days. Frey had a very good track record, Brown is unquestionably a good hire. Mattison, good, Washington, good, Warinner, Partrige, Zordich - all GOOD.

          I don't know that criticism of Harbaugh's ability to hire staff (surround himself with competent people) is justified.

          With respect to Gattis, it's still early.

          I'm focusing on the next three games, see how the coaches and players respond, rather than continuing to speculate that Harbaugh is afflicted or search for skeleton's in JH's closet.
          Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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          • #80
            Going back and analyzing whether or not Harbaugh was the hire is besides the point. He was definitely the safest hire. The Harbaugh experiment shows you how much you don't know when you hire a coach and how much you can get anchored to initial impressions. Its easy to say hire a Meyer and Saban, but they are kind of like unicorns. There are a lot of successful coaches that go to a different job and flop. People in Alabama were going crazy when they hired Saban and it all seemed very silly, now it certainly doesn't look so silly.

            It is kind of a crapshoot, you might know that Brady Hoke is a bad hire, but saying who is going to be a great hire is much harder. It's why we've seen many great programs have strings of bad hires.

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            • #81
              Thanks. That changes things for me. One of the things I thought about harbaugh is that he would insulate the programme from Ann Arbor bullshit. I guess he's lost the leverage to do that.

              I think harbaugh is good at cleaning up in-season messes. Good at game-to-game stuff. One of his best game plans was the one in which he went into the Ohio State game with John o'korn. We should expect to see gradual improvement in the next four or five games. But that won't say very much about the years to come, in my opinion. Success or failure for this program at this point is going to come in December and January.

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              • #82
                Holding your coaching staff accountable is a quality of exceptional organizational skills, I don't think you two disagree.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by WM Wolverine View Post
                  Holding your coaching staff accountable is a quality of exceptional organizational skills, I don't think you two disagree.
                  Yeah, organizational skills are baked into the cake of holding staff accountable. You have to know what needs to be done, communicate and delegate, and coach them up when they fall short. I started to make a venn diagram but decided it was overkill.


                  "The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is sometimes hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

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                  • #84
                    If Harbaugh has lost the leverage to ward off meddling, then I wouldn't take it as a given that he'll stay in the job. IIRC, despite the fact that he wanted to be here for the long haul, he negotiated pretty hard with Hackett about some details around his own control, and that goes beyond the assistants pay pool. This either gives me hope -- that he can now grab back control and do what he wants -- or none at all, if we can't retain him and if any future coach is going to be subject to the same nonsense. You'd think that people might learn from the Beilein experience to just make a good hire and leave that guy alone to do his thing.

                    All this is a big if of course.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by WM Wolverine View Post
                      Holding your coaching staff accountable is a quality of exceptional organizational skills, I don't think you two disagree.
                      Four! Four are the chief weapons of the successful college football coach. Recruiting! Organizational skills and recruiting!

                      (No one expects the Harbaugh Tire Fire.)

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                      • #86
                        State of M football in 2019? A patient in intensive care, on life support has improved and been moved to regular room on the floor.

                        Because the patient was on a vent, there is a risk of a pulmonary infection that could slow the recovery.
                        Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                        • #87
                          Some of the bloom came off the Matt Campbell rose last couple of weeks LOL.

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                          • #88
                            The whole start looking for a new coach after the Wisconsin debacle was way over-blown. People taking out their asses.
                            Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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                            • #89
                              The only thing that I can think of that would make Warde Manuel make a change this year would be if Harbaugh completely lost control of the team.

                              He's safe this year, (no matter what the record is) and likely next year as well.
                              "in order to lead America you must love America"

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