Michigan Football, Team 140, 2019 Season

[AlabamAlum]

[froot loops]

I think that underscores how much of a public team Michigan is.

[iam416]

REVENGE TOUR.

[Hannibal]

[Jeff Buchanan]

I think, for now, that's a fair take.

.........jumps on the Hannibal doubt train.

[iam416]

HARBAUGH!!!! finally has his own players. He won 9.5 games per year with Hoke's hot trash. There is no way in god's green earth he wins less than 9 this year. 12-1 and going to the CFP seems about right.

[Whitley]

Sure losses right now

Army
Notre Dame
Ohio State

Likely Losses

@Penn State/@ Wisconsin


I see 9-3 as the best possibility. More likely 8-4 and could be 7-5 with a touch of bad luck.

[Jeff Buchanan]

HARBAUGH!!!! finally has his own players. He won 9.5 games per year with Hoke's hot trash. There is no way in god's green earth he wins less than 9 this year. 12-1 and going to the CFP seems about right.

Sure, but JH has demonstrated a remarkable penchant to turtle against good competition or his rivals. What I mean by that is that he has - or had may be a better description of his first 4y - this belief that he could club opponents on offense and rely on his defense to hold them below 20. That worked most of the time but not against teams with a talent advantage and/or highly motivated and well coached.

[AlabamAlum]

[froot loops]

Yeah if HARBAUGH! loses to Army, it will be hitting the fan and for good reason.

[Jeff Buchanan]

Sure agree with you that it will be hitting the fan and should with a loss to Army but ......... getting a win depends on what offense, tentative and unsure, or confident balls to the wall M shows up with. Installing new offenses doesn't often go well in year one even though it's being said its evolutionary change not revolutionary.

Army finished 19th in the polls, 10th in total defense (SOS 97th so, there is that).

Army is hard to play because they are a possession team and like Hanni said, it could be an 8 possession game for M and that is how Army wins big games .... holding the ball on long drives.

Obviously, the key to winning this game is to stop the kind of option ball Army plays. But M has to go for it and keep the pedal to the floor. That's not in Harbaugh's DNA or at least we've not seen that since he arrived. Methodical would be my description of him up until now and that is not a great way to play modern CFB IMO. M can lose to Army playing that way. Remains to be seen what kind of impact Gatis has on mitigating Harbaugh's tendencies to turtle.

[froot loops]

Nope I don't need that, Michigan should blister them. No matter what scheme they throw out there.

[WM Wolverine]

9 is the floor, assuming no major injuries but very little optimism to win 11. Schedule has too many good teams (4 against top 11) that they don't have the room for error like Clemson's schedule always gives them.

[Hannibal]

No talent at RB outside of a true freshman. New OC possibly running a scheme that is completely incompatible with the head coach. Immensely talented but underachieving receiving corps. A few massive holes on defense (Long, Winovich, Bush) to fill.

[Tom W]

Sorry, but if Army comes up to A2 and leaves with a W, Harbaugh should just leave with them "to pursue other opportunities".

The "chicken little" expectations around this team are frustrating as hell. They do have merit, however, and we can expect them to persist until they prove that they can play a full season without mentally folding in the face of adversity.

I can see them collapsing to ND or PSU or sparty. Even Iowa or Wisconsin. But Army? No.