osu 63, Michigan 39

[Hannibal]

Jim Harbaugh with a successful audition for the Lions' head coaching job in that press conference.

[Hannibal]

Found via mgoblog -- pretty good column by Steve Deace (Michigan Podcast guy on youtube)

https://collegesportsmaven.io/michig...0arIS7VMm7qVQ/

Jim is Les, More or LessWho Are We?Gimmicky and OverratedConclusion

1. Urban Meyer retires.
2. Michigan must modernize its offense while playing a realistic defense.

[THE_WIZARD_]

This game reminded me of UNL vs. Colorado in 2001. That was the death of Husker Football as we knew it.

[edindetroit]

A list of football coaches who have beaten Meyer since Carr's last victory (15 years ago):

1. Barry Alvarez
2. Bret Bielema
3. Mark Dantonio
4. Joe Tiller
5. Jeff Brohm
6. Brady Hoke (LOL)
7. Danny Hope (LOL)
8. Lincoln Riley
9. Frank Beamer
10. Dabo Sweeney
11. Randy Walker
12. Kirk Frerentz
13. Joe Paterno
14. James Franklin
15. Ron Zook (LOL)
16. Pete Carroll
17. Al Golden (LOL)
18. Bo Pelini
19. Mack Brown
20. Urban Meyer
21. Les Miles

Some of those guys have done it multiple times. Not included: Our current coach.

Urban Meyer beat Urban Meyer?

[WingsFan]

Deace is very good in hindsight, but a horrible homer. Said we would easily win at ND and OSU.

He's the guy who had to get a I love Jimmy (Harbaugh) 'tramp stamp' tattoo last week (ouch) after losing his temper after the ND game saying he would get a tattoo if Michigan won 10 games.


Michigan has a coaching problem yes, and that main problem is Nick Saban and Urban Meyer.

[Hannibal]

He's a homer but not a blind one. He was really foolish to get that tattoo.

[WingsFan]

I really like his show after the losses, I have followed him since his first podcast.

[Hannibal]

Yeah me too. I was impressed that he was able to recalibrate his opinions after previous losses. I'll be looking forward to this week's show. I imagine that Michael Spath will be spitting bullets for this one. He should be.

[WingsFan]

Spath drank that kool-aid bad - like a lot of others

[Cody_Russell]

The only thing Brady Hoke beat Urban Meyer in is the race to the buffet line.

(Brady Hoke never beat Urban Meyer in football)

[Rocky Bleier]

Niffla,

I'm so there with you. Years ago I lived and died with this game. Not so much anymore. I guess it's what you call acceptance. It's like that woman you couldn't see yourself living without. Twenty years later you wonder what you were thinking. When everyone, including so many Buckeyes, were predicting a Michigan win, I didn't see it. After seeing the first 3 plays of the game - a Michigan possession that stalled on a 3rd and 9 - I said it was game over. The atmosphere, the intensity, I'd seen it all before. When OSU took the ball and started isolating Brandon Watson and Devin Gil, I wonder what the final margin of victory would be. I called my dad. We both vented our frustration. I hung up, and cleaned the pine needles off of my roof. Another loss to OSU. Nothing I haven't seen before.

[Rocky Bleier]

Hannibal,

I agree that the coaches did a shit job Saturday, but I still say there is a talent gap. Like Shea Patterson said,"They had a lot of athletes." Until Michigan pays more money to the players they'll never compete with college football's elite. You have to have that southern win-at-all-cost mentality. Ohio Stare has it; Michigan doesn't. Michigan is still selling tradition and education to kids who just want to go to the NFL. Even great coaches need players. Nick Saban's record at MSU was mediocre. Hell, he failed in MIami. He became a big winner when he went to the SEC. Suddenly, he's the greatest coach of all time. Urban Meyer was successful at Utah, but he wasn't going to win a national championship there. He won them at schools that wanted to win badly, would do whatever it took to do so, and had talent in their backyards.

[Hannibal]

[hack]

And they will. I wish this wasn't a car that somehow hits every damn pothole along the way including the obvious ones easy to miss, but it is. And it will still get there sometimes.

[Rocky Bleier]

Yeah, those are pretty good examples, though Auburn did it once because they had the best player on the field - Cam Newton. It was amazing how much improved OSU was on Saturday. Coaching? Or playing up to their potential because it was what was formerly known as The Game? What I saw, though was OSU finding a weakness in coverage and exploiting it without mercy. So, I'm curious about what could have been done.

Michigan could not pressure Haskins with their front 4. Blitzing vacates areas underneath to crossing routes and slants. Our back 7 can't match their receivers' speed. What can you do? Nickel package? Supposedly Brown did unsuccessfully run some zone in the second half. Don Brown's defense is all about pressuring the quarterback. But if you can't get pressure, and a couple of your backfield guys aren't great in coverage they're vulnerable. All you need is one devastating mismatch - Watson/Olave. How do you cover up your weaknesses?