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  • Originally posted by Detroit Dan View Post
    gotta love Shea, McCaffrey, and Milton as runners. I don't think we'll see much more of Peters at Michigan.
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    • McCaffrey is definitely looking good as the successor to Shea. And those moves Milton put on were eye-catching to say the least. We need QB depth as you can never tell when a starter will be injured.
      Last edited by Detroit Dan; October 13, 2018, 10:07 PM.

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      • "25" - That was blazing on the scoreboard until about 5 minutes left in the game.

        It was Hornibrook's passing yardage up to that point.
        Michigan's defense actually had more receiving yards from Hornibrook than Wisky's Offense did.

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        • 48 rushes, 21 pass attempts for M ;)

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          • The allegedly weakest part of the Wisconsin defense was it's back end, esp. one of the CBs (a Fr.) and the S that was out the first half. The strongest? It's LBs in run defense who are very instinctive in filling inside gaps and how they interact with the DL.

            IVO this, you'd expect M to avoid inside runs and instead attack the back end with the pass. I did. Instead Harbuagh ruthlessly exploited what the Badgers thought was their strength. Like WM notes: 48 rushes and a run pass ratio pretty close to what Harbaugh seems to like, about 60/40. The adjustments to OL blocking in the 2nd half to facilitate Higdon's big game running IZ and power were spectacular.

            Higdon's running counterd by the RO were the plays. Along with Higdon's runs, the RO worked inside and outside with Shea's big 81 yard run in the 1st quarter as an example of the RO run outside. There were five other RO plays that I counted with the QB keeping, including a TD run by McCaffrey to the opposite side that Patterson ran it and with the defense gassed by the continuous pounding they were absorbing. What is sweet about that is that is Wisconsin's MO with Taylor doing the pounding and Harbaugh used it as a club against them.

            This play development v. Wisconsin didn't happen by accident. It was set up specifically for this game in the previous games, Maryland in particular. What is so satisfying is that one can see why we had to live through the frustration of watching M run inside into stacked boxes. There was a reason for it and it is explained here.

            Like it or hate it, Jim Harbaugh likes to spend the season gradually developing certain concepts to spring surprises on key opponents. This year we have seen Michigan stubbornly continue to run the football from the shotgun and the pistol, frequently using zone blocking. Michigan has periodically used zone read option plays with Shea Patterson; the occasional keep that is wiped out by terrible holding calls aside, Shea has handed off a frustrating amount of the time on these plays.
            Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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            • Enjoy it before it gets taken down by the copyright gestapo:

              Mission to CFB's National Championship accomplished. But the shine on the NC Trophy is embarrassingly wearing off. It's M B-Ball ..... or hockey or volley ball or name your college sport favorite time ...... until next year.

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              • I'm seeing some criticism of Wisconsin for taking the ball after winning the toss. I didn't read through this thread but did people forget that Wisconsin was missing a starter for the first half because of a targeting call last week?

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                • Hornibrook is not very good and Coach Jim depantsed Cryst. He approached this game with urgency and intensity you see in a fourth preseason NFL game. If you are going to try and win a prime time game at Michigan you need to bring something other than blah manball.

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                  • Ben Herbert and Ed Warriner were the best off season moves that Harbaugh made. Can't wait to see what the o-line looks like in the future.
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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post
                      You'll hear a ton of bitching on the roughing call from Badger fans if M wins this. Too bad. I like the way the 50/50 shit is going so far. M has not had a single penalty.
                      One bad call doesn't make the score 38 - 13
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                      • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                        Hornibrook is not very good and Coach Jim depantsed Cryst. He approached this game with urgency and intensity you see in a fourth preseason NFL game. If you are going to try and win a prime time game at Michigan you need to bring something other than blah manball.
                        Their manball was kicking our ass. if anything they should have run the ball 20 more times than they did. We gave up over 7 ypc (sack-adjusted) and even if you take away Wisky's longest run we gave up 6 ypc. The run defense was not good at all but fortunately the Badgers are the best running team on our schedule (by what appears to be a significant margin).

                        Piss poorly coached game by Chryst.
                        Last edited by Hannibal; October 14, 2018, 08:50 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Jeff Buchanan View Post
                          The allegedly weakest part of the Wisconsin defense was it's back end, esp. one of the CBs (a Fr.) and the S that was out the first half. The strongest? It's LBs in run defense who are very instinctive in filling inside gaps and how they interact with the DL.

                          IVO this, you'd expect M to avoid inside runs and instead attack the back end with the pass. I did. Instead Harbuagh ruthlessly exploited what the Badgers thought was their strength. Like WM notes: 48 rushes and a run pass ratio pretty close to what Harbaugh seems to like, about 60/40. The adjustments to OL blocking in the 2nd half to facilitate Higdon's big game running IZ and power were spectacular.

                          Higdon's running counterd by the RO were the plays. Along with Higdon's runs, the RO worked inside and outside with Shea's big 81 yard run in the 1st quarter as an example of the RO run outside. There were five other RO plays that I counted with the QB keeping, including a TD run by McCaffrey to the opposite side that Patterson ran it and with the defense gassed by the continuous pounding they were absorbing. What is sweet about that is that is Wisconsin's MO with Taylor doing the pounding and Harbaugh used it as a club against them.

                          This play development v. Wisconsin didn't happen by accident. It was set up specifically for this game in the previous games, Maryland in particular. What is so satisfying is that one can see why we had to live through the frustration of watching M run inside into stacked boxes. There was a reason for it and it is explained here.

                          https://mgoblog.com/diaries/81-yard-...bluff-arc-pics
                          320 rushing yards against a legitimate B1G defense. It's amazing what having a QB running threat can do for you.

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                          • Their manball was kicking our ass. if anything they should have run the ball 20 more times than they did. We gave up over 7 ypc (sack-adjusted) and even if you take away Wisky's longest run we gave up 6 ypc. The run defense was not good at all but fortunately the Badgers are the best running team on our schedule (by what appears to be a significant margin).

                            Piss poorly coached game by Chryst.
                            The problem they had is that they couldn't sustain drives. They could generate a couple first downs, flip field position, but the defense isn't good enough to make that flip stand up and they'd start back at the 25 or worse again.

                            But, yeah, they looked good running between the guards. I don't get why that #37 dude gets carries. Taylor is so much better than him.

                            It's amazing what having a QB running threat can do for you.
                            This. Exactly. The Andrew Luck offense isn't a safe bet. It's far more efficient to utilize a running QB. OSU's running game is getting killed because, in part, the QB is a zero threat.
                            Last edited by iam416; October 14, 2018, 08:56 AM.
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                            • I felt like after their first TD Michigan adjusted and they weren't going to get long drives that allowed them to run the ball 20 more times. You can only get that chance if you get first downs and force the opponent into 3 and outs.

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                              • Originally posted by iam416 View Post

                                The problem they had is that they couldn't sustain drives. They could generate a couple first downs, flip field position, but the defense isn't good enough to make that flip stand up and they'd start back at the 25 or worse again.

                                But, yeah, they looked good running between the guards. I don't get why that #37 dude gets carries. Taylor is so much better than him..
                                Taylor got only 17 carries. The score was lopsided but not until the 4th quarter. He should have gotten no less than 25. We couldn't stop him. Throwing the ball on 3rd and a short 3 from our 45 yard line was retarded. Just not a good game by Chryst. I'm not complaining.... we have been on that side of the equation more times than i can recall.

                                If only Dantonio would have one of those against us (prediction: he won't).
                                Last edited by Hannibal; October 14, 2018, 09:02 AM.

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