Matt Stafford is the suckiest suck to ever suck

[JGSpartan]

Lions simply play to the level of their opposition, and try to outdo them in the gaff department. If the Lions had the #1 defense in football they wouldn't be throwing it, they'd be stubbornly trying to create a running game. Instead of scoring 30, they'd be losing 16-13.....

Now you're just making things up, last time they had a top 5 defense they were still a pass first team and won 5 of the eleven regular season wins by multiple scores. They were still defined by their inability to run and a 1 dimensional offense.

Stafford is not without blame in the playoff loss to Dallas but the refs and his left tackle played a massive part in that one as we all know.

If you think that 25 year old stafford is as good as the 30 yr old we have today that just flat out doesn't make many poor decision picks you're delusional.

My turn for a hypothetical, If we had that defense today or even a top 16 one we'd be coasting.

[Futureshock]

That is my whole point. That shit should be sussed out in PRACTICE. It simply shouldn't make it to game day because if it does then everyone should be on the same page - no surprises. Everyone knows their assignments.

Instead what we are left with is failed attempts at post game rationalizing of a clusterfuck that started when players reported for camp.

You ever thought that it may actually work in practice against this crappy D?

[JGSpartan]

The "Play" worked in the game. The player didn't execute. The 6'6 TE had two hands on the ball in a 1 on 1 matchup with a 5'10 DB and couldn't bring it in. It certainly didn't help the DB got there early for what should've been a PI if Jarrad Davis' PI was a PI.

[froot loops]

That is my whole point. That shit should be sussed out in PRACTICE. It simply shouldn't make it to game day because if it does then everyone should be on the same page - no surprises. Everyone knows their assignments.

Instead what we are left with is failed attempts at post game rationalizing of a clusterfuck that started when players reported for camp.

I guess man. Damn Stafford for not sussing it out!

[dpatnod]

I demand excellence. And sussed out bullshit.

There.

[TheLondonLion]

The "Play" worked in the game. The player didn't execute. The 6'6 TE had two hands on the ball in a 1 on 1 matchup with a 5'10 DB and couldn't bring it in. It certainly didn't help the DB got there early for what should've been a PI if Jarrad Davis' PI was a PI.

[JGSpartan]

Again, execution vs bad design. The design was to get a 1v1 matchup with a TE on an undersized Defender. They absolutely got that. Failure to execute a play does not always mean it was a poor choice of play. Regardless of throwing it before he wanted Stafford still got it into Thomas' hands with a chance to make the catch. Good plays fail, There I'd no money play. This is an example of that.

[Marko69]

Ahhhh, sidearming it out prematurely. That always annoys the wife.

[TheLondonLion]

[JGSpartan]

Execution. You think it was designed that way? Even on a screen you chip guys for a sec. The defender made a play or a lineman didn't. I seriously doubt letting him in was the intention. Backup lineman in on a Goalline situation I'm not remotely shocked protection failed and it likely would have regardless of playcalling. You're arguing it was a bad play call because of poor execution while ignoring that the design of the play did exactly what it was supposed to do

[TheLondonLion]

[JGSpartan]

I'm not shocked by it failing by any means and I would've preferred something with Golladay and Jones on the field too. Had they managed to block though it probably is a touchdown

[froot loops]

The sidearm throw was the only way he gets it there, the safety knock it out of Thomas' grasp. The backup lineman did as he was supposed to by pulling.

It was a terrible play call.

[dwt1]

This.

What's funny is the constant assurtion that the QB is ultra-important and MS isn't good enough to win.

Yet, MS hangs 30 points on MIN and loses by 12. Matt Moore (who was totally out of football) comes out of retirement and plays on a good Chiefs team with a great playcaller and beats MIN with throwing 1 TD. Lol. Yeah it's all MS's fault

You truly do not understand football, at least at the NFL level - The NFL is a league of parity. The difference between winning and losing is usually just a few play made or not made. So let's go back and see why KC beat Minnesota.

4th Quarter, KC down 20 to 23. Six minutes to go in the game. KC gets the ball back. This drive ended up in a game tying field goal, in this drive Moore was sacked twice (this would have been the death knell for the Mediocre Matty lead Lions). but he did have this one play on the drive. A 41 yard completion that put them in field goal range. Game is now tied 23/23. The subsequent Mediocre Matty 2.0 led drive went three and out, as Medicore Matty 2.0 threw two incompletions and a -7.0 yard pass. KC now has the ball again, starting at the Minny 45 yard line. Moore drives them into field goal range by completing a 17 yard pass and a 13 yard pass, both passes complete after being sacked for a 11 yard loss. The dude was sacked three times in the two drive he led to win this game.

That's is how a QB makes plays to win games, it wasn't perfect, it doesn't need to be, he just needs to step up when given the opportunity.

[TheLondonLion]

The sidearm throw was the only way he gets it there, the safety knock it out of Thomas' grasp. The backup lineman did as he was supposed to by pulling.

It was a terrible play call.

Yep and that in itself is why it was a bad call. No one was biting on play action, they used the same call against LAC to Jesse James if I remember and defenders were all over Stafford like a rash this time forcing a hurried throw. I'd rather Stafford had tried to sneak it in or someone had tried to jump over the line of scrimmage.