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  • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
    One other thing, getting aggressive and going after the guy he wants was a hallmark of Martin Mayhew. He made a lot of draft day trades to move up and get his guy.
    That's a hallmark of most GMs. Again, the difference is the GM. Not the act

    He moved up and got guys that have positively contributed. Now if he was moving up for Brian Calhoun...
    Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.

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    • Moved up and got guys who have positively contributed......hello, they are 4-7. Where is that positive contribution?

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      • Originally posted by Futureshock View Post

        In what round were they taken? Most of those were only as high as the second round. Anything prior to Quinn makes no sense to try and evaluate because it was under a bad GM (Quinn may too be exposed as a bad GM, but the jury isn't totally out on that yet). The highest D players were Robinson and Tabor. Respectively, average and bust. But if you can't tell the difference in the quality of players selected this year and how he went about it, I don't know what to say.

        Drafting Greedy Williams in the first round or Mook Reynolds in the sixth round is a big difference.
        1st round 6 offensive 4 defensive
        2nd round 4 defensive 4 offensive
        3rd round 5 defensive 4 offensive

        The thought that they have neglect the defense is nonsense. It has been pretty evenly dispersed.

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        • Originally posted by Futureshock View Post

          That's a hallmark of most GMs. Again, the difference is the GM. Not the act

          He moved up and got guys that have positively contributed. Now if he was moving up for Brian Calhoun...
          No, some GMs prefer to trade down to get more picks.

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          • Originally posted by froot loops View Post

            1st round 6 offensive 4 defensive
            2nd round 4 defensive 4 offensive
            3rd round 5 defensive 4 offensive

            The thought that they have neglect the defense is nonsense. It has been pretty evenly dispersed.
            Under Quinn?
            Trickalicious - I don't think it is fair that the division rivals get to play the Lions twice. The Lions NEVER get to play the Lions, let alone twice.

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            • I'm talking under the previous post where I went back to the 2010 draft. You have to make sense of drafts under previous GMs, they are important, it certainly is important when people are talking about weapons for Stafford. Under Quinn it has only been two skill position players for the offense in the 1st three rounds.

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              • And it wasn't just Robinson and Tabor, they also drafted Davis in the 1st round.

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                • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                  I'm talking under the previous post where I went back to the 2010 draft. You have to make sense of drafts under previous GMs, they are important, it certainly is important when people are talking about weapons for Stafford. Under Quinn it has only been two skill position players for the offense in the 1st three rounds.
                  Under Quinn they have replaced pretty much the entire offense - and ALL of it with 1-3 rd draft picks and expensive FA's - and now they are starting it all over again.
                  LT: Decker (1st Rd)
                  LG: Ragnow (1st Rd)
                  C: Glasgow (3rd Rd)
                  RG: Lang (expensive FA)
                  RT: Wagner (expensive FA)
                  RB: Abdullah the Butcher, Kerryon (both 2nd rd)
                  WR: Marvin Jones (expensive FA), Golladay (3rd rd)

                  Go figure, maybe a couple of shiny new WR's, TE, another RG will FINALLY do the trick. Ugh.

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                  • No matter who the QB is, they are going to continue to do that. Your approach is to throw up your arms and say we drafted a bust offensive player in the 2nd round, lets never draft that position again. You need offense in the NFL, your point about their record when they score a certain amount of points lack context, I would imagine most teams have a good record when they hold an opponent under 20 points.

                    The problem is nothing effing sticks with this team. Until you fix that, it's never ever changing.

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                    • StaTford needz moar weaponz!

                      Needz them badly.
                      19.1119, NO LONGER WAITING

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                      • The best teams have offensive weapons, including the Chiefs. The Chiefs aren't one of the best teams because of their defense.

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                        • Originally posted by froot loops View Post
                          The best teams have offensive weapons, including the Chiefs. The Chiefs aren't one of the best teams because of their defense.
                          They don't have a single offensive weapon that they drafted earlier than the 3rd Rd save the QB. None, zero.
                          The only expensive FA signing they have is Watkins.

                          If the Lions draft a WR/TE this year in the 1st Rd because Stafford needs Moar WeponZ I'm fucking done with this team.

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                          • Originally posted by Fraquar View Post

                            They don't have a single offensive weapon that they drafted earlier than the 3rd Rd save the QB. None, zero.
                            The only expensive FA signing they have is Watkins.

                            If the Lions draft a WR/TE this year in the 1st Rd because Stafford needs Moar WeponZ I'm fucking done with this team.
                            The KC QB with a 12 game NFL resume is only making (iirc) $3.64M NOT nearly $30 MILLION DOLLARS this season.
                            19.1119, NO LONGER WAITING

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                            • Sure you are done. Again, the Lion problem is they are failing on both sides of the ball in drafting good players. You can get rid of Stafford, if you think he isn't the answer he should be gone but it doesn't change the fact the Lions have failed on both sides of the ball to procure talent.

                              You're caterwauling about offensive players would be more impressive if you could point to their prowess in getting defensive players. They picked Jarrod Davis in the 1st round and he is milquetoast.

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