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Originally posted by kreton View PostNo. Rodgers or Brady wouldn't have led these Detroit teams anywhere either. It takes more than 1 guy to win a ring.
You’re going to be sorely disappointed when they lose to all winning teams next year.Last edited by dwt1; January 22, 2018, 06:11 PM.
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Originally posted by chemiclord View PostHey, on that score, the Hater's Club is completely correct.
Stafford cannot nigh singlehandedly carry a team like Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady can.
But that's not the question, and it never has been.
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Then what would you group of 5 do?
Talk about the draft prospects every year and get excited over the upgrades coming every year, which never do, til the team gets perfect?
Go back in all the draft threads and find out how many current Lions were when drafted, upgrades over the, then current player.
Knock yourself out.
we all need each other to take away the frustrations until the winning happens, if it ever does.
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Originally posted by wcfwtf View PostThen what would you group of 5 do?
Talk about the draft prospects every year and get excited over the upgrades coming every year, which never do, til the team gets perfect?
Go back in all the draft threads and find out how many current Lions were when drafted, upgrades over the, then current player.
Knock yourself out.
we all need each other to take away the frustrations until the winning happens, if it ever does.
But, the reality of the draft, across the board is that less than 3% of all players drafted ever make a difference in the NFL. Less than half ever play in the NFL. Most of the rest are either special team fodder or just occupy a space and do nothing remarkable. The Washington Post published a study analyzing 20 drafts, two years ago - that was the conclusion.
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Originally posted by dwt1 View PostIt's like clockwork - every draft the Lions pick players make the people on this forum scratch their heads wondering what the hell were they thinking. But before the draft is over, they convince themselves the Lions picked the guys that are going to put them over the edge.
But, the reality of the draft, across the board is that less than 3% of all players drafted ever make a difference in the NFL. Less than half ever play in the NFL. Most of the rest are either special team fodder or just occupy a space and do nothing remarkable. The Washington Post published a study analyzing 20 drafts, two years ago - that was the conclusion.
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Originally posted by dwt1 View PostSo all those come from behind victories last year, Mediocre Matty wasn?t a difference maker in those wins.
You?re going to be sorely disappointed when they lose to all winning teams next year.
Look at the top 4 teams this year. Philly - Minnesota - NE - Jacksonville
What do they all have in common? Do they all have elite QBs? Many don't consider Keenum, Foles, and Bortles to be possible GOATS. Nope that isnt it then.
They all have elite defensive units. 3/4 have very strong running games. They all have at least decent QBs. Look deeper into a lot of successful NFL franchises. Denver when they were elite with Manning - Look at that defense. When they won the SB Manning was garbage that year. Look at Pittsburgh. Big Ben is not any better than Stafford but he has an elite defense most years and Leveon Bell. Seattle won on the backs of that defense. Carolina recently - DEFENSE. Ravens won a ring. Was it because of Flacco or that monster defense? Cardinals? The D. Rams went from a shit show to a decent team this year because of what? Its not because Goff is the GOAT. Were the Bucs dominant under Gruden because of Brad Johnson? Nope. Stop being retarded. Its ok to be wrong.
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Originally posted by kreton View PostTake a look at what wins football games. Having an elite player at any position will make a big difference. That is obvious and QB is no exception.
Look at the top 4 teams this year. Philly - Minnesota - NE - Jacksonville
What do they all have in common? Do they all have elite QBs? Many don't consider Keenum, Foles, and Bortles to be possible GOATS. Nope that isnt it then.
They all have elite defensive units. 3/4 have very strong running games. They all have at least decent QBs. Look deeper into a lot of successful NFL franchises. Denver when they were elite with Manning - Look at that defense. When they won the SB Manning was garbage that year. Look at Pittsburgh. Big Ben is not any better than Stafford but he has an elite defense most years and Leveon Bell. Seattle won on the backs of that defense. Carolina recently - DEFENSE. Ravens won a ring. Was it because of Flacco or that monster defense? Cardinals? The D. Rams went from a shit show to a decent team this year because of what? Its not because Goff is the GOAT. Were the Bucs dominant under Gruden because of Brad Johnson? Nope. Stop being retarded. Its ok to be wrong.
Drop the mic and close the fucking thread.I feel like I am watching the destruction of our democracy while my neighbors and friends cheer it on
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Originally posted by AMP View PostIt always is the mantra on this forum. The ole excuses start rolling on in this time of year.19.1119, NO LONGER WAITING
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Originally posted by Panoptes View PostIm confused by the nearly QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS the QB is being paid as though he is the best QB in all the land but continues to play like the middling QB he is.
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What does these playoffs say?
That there are plenty of ways to field a team that can win in the playoffs. If you get lucky and find that generational QB, great. But if you don't, you don't have to keep playing that lottery if you have one that's good enough.
That's never really been up for debate. The question really amounts to is Matt Stafford good enough? The Hater's Club wants to claim "no," which is absolutely preposterous when you consider who is behind center for a lot of playoff teams.
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Originally posted by chemiclord View PostWhat does these playoffs say?
That there are plenty of ways to field a team that can win in the playoffs. If you get lucky and find that generational QB, great. But if you don't, you don't have to keep playing that lottery if you have one that's good enough.
That's never really been up for debate. The question really amounts to is Matt Stafford good enough? The Hater's Club wants to claim "no," which is absolutely preposterous when you consider who is behind center for a lot of playoff teams.
It preposterous to suggest that Stafford is the reason they haven't won a playoff games when there are dozens of QBs in the last 10 years that have won a playoff game that aren't good enough to even be a starter in the league.
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